one too much and one too less

[promotheus2070]

hi reefers

i bought myself a couple of weeks ago a seriatopora caliendrum and a monti digitata forrest fire frag .
to be short i think the caliendrum is in too less light and the monti too much .
both shows whitning , the caliendreum mostly from the base inbetween the branches and the monti mostly on the part thats gets most light .
the withing or Bleaching isnt from day to day but more gradualy slow a bit every day .
since im still new too reefing *1 year* i should ask for some opnions on this issue and if i am correct in what i think is the issue .

water parameters and system specification's to be followed shortly .


thanks in advance .

 

[Uncle99]

hi reefers

i bought myself a couple of weeks ago a seriatopora caliendrum and a monti digitata forrest fire frag .
to be short i think the caliendrum is in too less light and the monti too much .
both shows whitning , the caliendreum mostly from the base inbetween the branches and the monti mostly on the part thats gets most light .
the withing or Bleaching isnt from day to day but more gradualy slow a bit every day .
since im still new too reefing *1 year* i should ask for some opnions on this issue and if i am correct in what i think is the issue .

water parameters and system specification's to be followed shortly .


thanks in advance .

Pics?
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If you post using YouTube, more members will see.

 

[bluemon]

Those two are usually very hardy SPS, (birdsnest and monti digitata) so I am thinking it will more than likely be the parameters more so than lighting as they are pretty forgiving with the lighting.

Did you get to acclimate their lighting as well?

But will be waiting for the parameters

 

[Mr. Mojo Rising]

It’s almost impossible to give monti too much light unless you have overpowered lighting. Can you share your parameters type of lighting and flow?

 

[Dburr1014]

hi reefers

i bought myself a couple of weeks ago a seriatopora caliendrum and a monti digitata forrest fire frag .
to be short i think the caliendrum is in too less light and the monti too much .
both shows whitning , the caliendreum mostly from the base inbetween the branches and the monti mostly on the part thats gets most light .
the withing or Bleaching isnt from day to day but more gradualy slow a bit every day .
since im still new too reefing *1 year* i should ask for some opnions on this issue and if i am correct in what i think is the issue .

water parameters and system specification's to be followed shortly .


thanks in advance .

Birds nest are very finicky. It can do well or very bad in a newish system.

I agree with mojo, Monti can take a ton of light. You should start that up high.

 

[promotheus2070]

water parameters
Salt - Red Sea Coral PRO
Temp - 25.0
Psu - 35.0
Ph - 8.30
Kh - 11.3
CA - 415-425
Mg - 1440
No3 - 15 - 25
PO4 - 0.15 - 0.25

System is a reefer 300xl Mixed lps/sps running approx 1 year .
every week 20 - 25% water change .
i supplement occasionaly seachem reef Plus / Manganese / Seachem phyto .

Using 2 x red sea reefleds at 65% blue and 20 - 15% white for a total of 9.45 hours .

please do ask if i missed some information .

thanks in advance .

 

[Dburr1014]

Probably need more light

 

[promotheus2070]

Probably need more light

thats for the calie right ?

 

[bluemon]

water parameters
Salt - Red Sea Coral PRO
Temp - 25.0
Psu - 35.0
Ph - 8.30
Kh - 11.3
CA - 415-425
Mg - 1440
No3 - 15 - 25
PO4 - 0.15 - 0.25

System is a reefer 300xl Mixed lps/sps running approx 1 year .
every week 20 - 25% water change .
i supplement occasionaly seachem reef Plus / Manganese / Seachem phyto .

Using 2 x red sea reefleds at 65% blue and 20 - 15% white for a total of 9.45 hours .

please do ask if i missed some information .

thanks in advance .

I would say Alk is a little high. How do you dose Alk?

Usually, even at the highest, I would say 10 is the ceiling, especially since you have high enough nutrients to cover that. But 11.3 is definitely pushing it a bit

 

[MikeyZo]

I’m gonna say your phosphate level has a lot to do with it.

.15-.25 is quite a drastic range, what are you testing it with?

 

[Dburr1014]

thats for the calie right ?

For sps in general.

Looks like they are suffering a bit.

I see the leather at the top, loves the light!
And that is a lower light required coral.

 

[promotheus2070]

I would say Alk is a little high. How do you dose Alk?

Usually, even at the highest, I would say 10 is the ceiling, especially since you have high enough nutrients to cover that. But 11.3 is definitely pushing it a bit

the salt im using is high in Kh , i am dosing dsr kh to keep it stable .
ive already got some comment's before on my high kh before in the store to be honnest so maybe thats a thing to change ?

 

[Dburr1014]

On another note, you are running GAC I hope. Leather coral inhibit sps growth. Need GAC to suck some of that up along with a good skimmer.

 

[promotheus2070]

I’m gonna say your phosphate level has a lot to do with it.

.15-.25 is quite a drastic range, what are you testing it with?

hanna checker , im pumping alot of gfo too keep it below 0.25 , every now and then i get a spike when gfo is on its last legs then i replace .

 

[promotheus2070]

On another note, you are running GAC I hope. Leather coral inhibit sps growth. Need GAC to suck some of that up along with a good skimmer.

yes 24/7

 

[promotheus2070]

On another note, you are running GAC I hope. Leather coral inhibit sps growth. Need GAC to suck some of that up along with a good skimmer.

i do notice not alot of skimming residue from the start of the system , i hardly never need to empty my skimmer . but i do run a filtermat , latest icp test did not show a high concentration in total free organic's .

 

[bluemon]

the salt im using is high in Kh , i am dosing dsr kh to keep it stable .
ive already got some comment's before on my high kh before in the store to be honnest so maybe thats a thing to change ?

I would try to change that.

Maybe even the salt as some salts definitely mix too high (~12)

I definitely had this problem before when I was lazy about testing my alk.

If you were to keep using the same salt, I would not change water (or change very little) until you get to around ~9. Then dose to keep it around there (8.5-9) and any water changes would bring that up to (9-9.5)

 

[promotheus2070]

my monti caps and hydnophora are at the highest point's of my scape , they are doing great .
maybe this could add up into some information .

 

[bluemon]

my monti caps and hydnophora are at the highest point's of my scape , they are doing great .
maybe this could add up into some information .

I'm willing to bet since they have been in the tank longer, they are probably more used to the heightened Alk levels as they were probably raised slowly over a course of time.

The new corals probably came from a lower alk tank as your alk is too high, so the alk spike when introduced and acclimated was a bit too much

 

[vetteguy53081]

hi reefers

i bought myself a couple of weeks ago a seriatopora caliendrum and a monti digitata forrest fire frag .
to be short i think the caliendrum is in too less light and the monti too much .
both shows whitning , the caliendreum mostly from the base inbetween the branches and the monti mostly on the part thats gets most light .
the withing or Bleaching isnt from day to day but more gradualy slow a bit every day .
since im still new too reefing *1 year* i should ask for some opnions on this issue and if i am correct in what i think is the issue .

water parameters and system specification's to be followed shortly .


thanks in advance .

Some reasons it will bleach such as Change in light and /or flow, a change in salinity, temperature and salt mixes. Additionally, Elevated phosphate, light and even new light and elevated alkalinity levels will be a higher risk to coral. Other minor factors will be low Dissolved oxygen, new corals especially leathers (which emit a toxin known as Terpenes), false test kit readings and newly added rock can alter chemistry.
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