Peroxide and the use against flatworm
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omykiss001
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I would first dilute your 35% bottle down to 3% which is much more manageable. Also be careful with the 35% stuff it will burn the S#%& out of you if in contact with your skin for even a very short time. Easiest way to dilute to 3% is to add 8.6 mL of 35% hydrogen peroxide into 91.4 mL of RO/DI water (100 ml total volume). Then you can dose more in line with 1 ml/8 gallons of water and work your way up or down from there. My tank at 150 gallons water volume only needs about 18.7 mL to reach this dosing. Make it fresh each time you need it or find a dark amber bottle to store it and keep in a dark location as H2O2 will break down with exposure to light and one of the reasons it packaged in black plastic bottles.
Hope this gives you a better starting point, but as far as amount to dose for dinoflagilates that I don't know a good answer to better to be safe and start low and work your way up, nice thing is H2O2 breaks down to water and O2 in a short period so should not have an additive effect if you wait at least 24 hours between doses.
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THANK you lol new to peroxide dosing just trying to makesure the halflife before i start dosing
Think she did ten times that dose if I remember right. From a different thread
omykiss001
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From what I've read it can vary dependent on which zoa you have. I have successfully treated some of my zoa colonies to kill algae by dipping for 2 minutes in a 25% solution of 3% hydrogen peroxide and they can through fine. you might start at a quarter dose (1ml per 40 gallons) and see if any corals look unhappy then bump up from there.
If it helps any, I cannot recall any loss of any zoanthid even in the overdose threads, only weeks of anger and then eventual reopen, maybe some pigment changes in retort for the insult. we classify healthy zoanthids as the most tolerable coral of all to peroxide, thick skinned rascals. nice dermis, man.
that's not to say some stressed singularly stalked/unconnected zos didn't let go and float off, but the colonials I cannot recall one single loss among five thousand treatments. if there is one, it wasn't part of any recurring theme in our threads.
that's not to say some stressed singularly stalked/unconnected zos didn't let go and float off, but the colonials I cannot recall one single loss among five thousand treatments. if there is one, it wasn't part of any recurring theme in our threads.
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twilliard
Tank pests..
Hey all I didnt get any alerts to new posts.
This thread and directions is for the use against flatworm.
Lets please try to keep on topic as this thread is now showing up as dinos.
This method will NOT work against dinos
Thank you all!
This thread and directions is for the use against flatworm.
Lets please try to keep on topic as this thread is now showing up as dinos.
This method will NOT work against dinos
Thank you all!
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Ryengoth
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I have found you can safely dose 1ml per 8 gallons but that is MAX per 24 hours
I've seen little issue with 37.5ml per 120g TWV, but that also includes 12.5ml of glycerine. I have a 30-ish frag of green paly and a 30-ish frag of red zoa. Neither have been super happy, but I've not seen and major reaction or die-off yet. I've been periodically spot-dosing 50ml in my 90g display several weeks now, killing hair algae. I did see a reduction in flat worms, but I also had a spike in cyano due to the carbon source so it's tough to know what was flat worm and what was cyano scrapings from the glass.
Having an issue with green slime algae all of a sudden and I do have flatworms so I'm wondering if this would help me shoot two birds with one stone but I have a lot of nice corals that I don't want to kill
Ryengoth
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I just started testing a 50ml 2:1 mixing syringe setup for dosing peroxide and glycerine. Whatever does not react with the organics it touches, will dilute into the water. The carbon will be consumed within 24-48 hours depending on how much you dose and how often. Here's a sample treatment video I finished today and uploaded. Some of the peroxide will soak into the pores of the rock, so you may initially see a flood of flat worms come out and hang out on the tank. You may also see pods running around in terror if you have any live ones in the rock.
drstratton
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Hey Todd @twilliard , despite all of my coral dipping and QT I have somehow managed to get flatworms into my tank and I want them gone, do you want some? I don't believe that I have very many yet as I've just started noticing them. I also have them in my frag tank, from another source! I'm thinking that I should maybe start there? This is under 60x magnification, they're really tiny!
I don't believe that I have very many yet as I've just started noticing them. I also have them in my frag tank, from another source! I'm thinking that I should maybe start there? This is under 60x magnification, they're really tiny!
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twilliard
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Oh no sorry that you picked them up!Hey Todd @twilliard , despite all of my coral dipping and QT I have somehow managed to get flatworms into my tank and I want them gone, do you want some?
Are they noticeable in large numbers?
I can't remember but do you run a sump?
drstratton
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No, I don't really see a lot of them and I siphoned out the few that I saw in my DT. As for the frag tank, I see some on the glass, but haven't really noticed any on the coral yet! I have a 40 breeder sump!
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twilliard
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First you need to know if they are susceptible to peroxide.
Get a white cup add tank water (about 1 cup) and add a few of those bad boys in there.
They should settle down quickly.
Add 5 drops of peroxide and observe the reactions. If they start swimming in circles that is a good sign
Give time and they should roll up into a ball and die.
From there the system can be treated
Get a white cup add tank water (about 1 cup) and add a few of those bad boys in there.
They should settle down quickly.
Add 5 drops of peroxide and observe the reactions. If they start swimming in circles that is a good sign
Give time and they should roll up into a ball and die.
From there the system can be treated
drstratton
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Thank you Todd! I will tackle this tomorrow and keep you posted. On my way to town this morning! Hopefully, they will all die!!!First you need to know if they are susceptible to peroxide.
Get a white cup add tank water (about 1 cup) and add a few of those bad boys in there.
They should settle down quickly.
Add 5 drops of peroxide and observe the reactions. If they start swimming in circles that is a good sign
Give time and they should roll up into a ball and die.
From there the system can be treated
drstratton
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Todd, before I do this, do you or @brandon429 know if this will affect my starfish or the small hitch hiker clams in my tank? I also saw that Brandon said it may kill Xenia.
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