Protein Skimmers and Nitrate/Nitrite

Garyf7257

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
Apr 5, 2017
Messages
119
Reaction score
17
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Hi, I have a 40G tank that I run a 70G Fluval canister Filter on, I took 40% of the media out so it's correct for the take size but still does a strong job mechanically. My Ammonia always tests 0, Nitrite is always bouncing between 0.05 & 0.1, Nitrate bounces between 10-20. I have been able to cut the nitrites and trates in half with 2 30% water changes spread 48 apart from one another but have been afraid to go any further than that because I do not want to pull all the nitrifying bacteria out of the water. I do perform weekly cleaning maintenance on the canister but I still cannot completely get rid of the trite or trate. Would a small protein skimmer be benifical to the levels or does anyone have suggestions on getting all my levels to 0?

Thank you
 

jeff williams

Well-Known Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 21, 2016
Messages
646
Reaction score
364
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Hi, I have a 40G tank that I run a 70G Fluval canister Filter on, I took 40% of the media out so it's correct for the take size but still does a strong job mechanically. My Ammonia always tests 0, Nitrite is always bouncing between 0.05 & 0.1, Nitrate bounces between 10-20. I have been able to cut the nitrites and trates in half with 2 30% water changes spread 48 apart from one another but have been afraid to go any further than that because I do not want to pull all the nitrifying bacteria out of the water. I do perform weekly cleaning maintenance on the canister but I still cannot completely get rid of the trite or trate. Would a small protein skimmer be benifical to the levels or does anyone have suggestions on getting all my levels to 0?

Thank you
Protien skimmer will help. You could also add some more nitrifying bacteria to your tank and it should help nitrite. Keep in mind the bacteria don't live in the water they are on on surfaces so doing water changes is ok just don't let any media dry out and when doing big WC's don't mess with the the sand or gravel and the media and the rock all at the same time
 

PatW

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 14, 2013
Messages
2,539
Reaction score
1,923
Location
Orlando, FL
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Once you get an adequate bacteria population established, you should not see measurable levels of ammonia or nitrite in your tank unless you du,p a huge amount of food in the tank. As JW above noted, the bacteria live on surfaces of things: gravel, glass, sand and rock. Porous rock supports the most bacteria. Water changes will not noticeably affect your beneficial bacteria.

Protein skimmers help with nutrient export and waste removal, but they really probably don't help the conversion of ammonia to nitrite to nitrate.
 

redzfit

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Apr 19, 2015
Messages
59
Reaction score
24
Location
SoCal
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I am just checking in to see if you got a protein skimmer and to see if it helped? I have a very similar setup and my nitrate levels seem to be 10-20 and can not seem to get it down to 0......
 

Mike N

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Mar 21, 2017
Messages
1,777
Reaction score
1,566
Location
Houston, TX
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Honestly, nitrate levels of 10-20ppm aren't a big deal. As long as you have 0ppm ammonia and nitrite you're good.
 

redzfit

Community Member
View Badges
Joined
Apr 19, 2015
Messages
59
Reaction score
24
Location
SoCal
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Thank you.... Since this thread last night I researched switching from my Fluval to a refugium system....
 

Mike N

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Mar 21, 2017
Messages
1,777
Reaction score
1,566
Location
Houston, TX
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Yeah, most of my tanks are 20+ppm nitrate and I have no issues with fish or inverts. You can lower it more with water changes and filter maintenance if you so choose.
 

Dennco2000

Active Member
View Badges
Joined
May 31, 2017
Messages
134
Reaction score
99
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
You will be much happier, Plan ahead if you think you be upgrading the size of your tank soon so you don't have to purchase bigger and better equipment again.... We all do it LOL
 

Vahanyos

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Nov 11, 2016
Messages
1,195
Reaction score
845
Location
Los Angeles
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
My 2 cents ...

What they said above. As long as your Ammonia and nitrite are zero I wouldn't worry too much about getting nitrates to 0. A skimmer will definitely help with nutrient export. My nitrates are always in the 60 range and yes that is high. Countless water changes, better skimming, etc but they don't seem to ever go to zero. All my fish are happy, healthy, and corals are growing and thriving. Your best indicator that you need to fix something in the tank is your corals and fish. If they're fine you're fine.
 

TOP 10 Trending Threads

WHAT AMOUNT OF LIVE ROCK AND SAND SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED FOR OPTIMAL BIODIVERSITY/FILTRATION?

  • 100% live rock + bagged sand

    Votes: 38 27.3%
  • 100% dry rock + 100% live sand

    Votes: 47 33.8%
  • 50/50 live/dry rock, 50/50 live/bagged sand

    Votes: 30 21.6%
  • 75% live rock, 25% live sand

    Votes: 14 10.1%
  • 25% live rock, 75% live sand

    Votes: 10 7.2%
Back
Top