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Unless you win the Waterbox lotto and get a rubbish stand... And, initially their support was responsive, but the longer this drags out the worse it is. I've had it setup since September and still don't have all my issues resolved.I would go with the waterbox just for the stand. Red sea uses cheap chip board(MDF) where waterbox uses actual wood(not plywood or chipboard(MDF)) for their stands.
I love my water box stand. It’s definitely the nicest quality I have had. Much easier than building one myself, and I couldn’t bring myself to hire a cabinet worker to build one for me. Just way too much money to justify.Yeah I really wish both of these companies would sell just the tanks! I think they would sell more and have much happier customers to be honest.
Man, I see this a lot, I’m not sure people seem to not like the sump design. I like it a lot better than any of the commercially available acrylic choices. I prefer glass, and the design and layout is perfect.I'd be happy to buy the tank and stand. I just don't want the sump so I can put a trigger system in. No that you can't do that from the start...but would be nice to not have to pay for a WB or RS sump I'm just going to toss.
Which then points the credit card in the direction of IM....
Yeah I really wish both of these companies would sell just the tanks! I think they would sell more and have much happier customers to be honest.
Seems like you could just get the tank, maybe a bit of work to have your LFS contact them, but someone has done it.
Hello Brakaan,I know this thread is a little old, but I hope it hasn't gone stale. I'm considering the RS Reefer 350 vs the Marine X 110.4.
As far as I can tell, they are very similar tanks with distinct pros and cons. I really appreciate all the responses on here, especially regarding the cabinet, because that's a big factor for me.
I'd like to know your opinions on which is more important, a quality cabinet or the extra features the RS sump has?
In favor of the WB:
Better plumbing (gate valve and unions)
Better cabinet (Plywood vs MDF; leveling feet for cabinet; leveling pad for tank)
Glass removable weir
Dual returns
Smaller return box and more display tank volume (79 vs 73)
In favor of the RS:
Refugium ready
Bigger ATO reservoir (4.7 vs 2.8)
I've read a lot of R2R members complain about small ATOs (strike WB) but also that it’s a PITA to have to remove the ATO for cleaning the sump (strike RS).
Would it be easy to convert the WB sump to include a refugium? I think I’d really like to have one down the road.
I’m really concerned about the RS cabinet sagging, not being level or wearing poorly from water damage since it is MDF.
So what’s your opinion? Is it more important to have a good cabinet or a refugium ready sump?
I would consider the XL line from RS, which has the improved cabinet, but I want the 4-foot long, and my budget can’t spare the extra $500 for the 425XL. I also think the 95 total gallons is more than enough weight and volume for my situation.
Thanks!
May I ask what makes it better?i have both, waterbox is better