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I placed an order for ten red striped cardinals online and they all arrived alive and in good condition. I acclimated them for 1 1/2 hours and introduced them into my 240 gallon display tank. I have four pigmy angels and two orange striped cardinals that have been in the tank for several weeks. I observed very closely the behavior of my other fish when I introduced the ten cardinals and there was no hyper activity or extreme interest in the cardinals at all. Not even from the two orange striped cardinals and there never was. However, every day since they were introduced, the number has dwindled. I now only have four of the red striped cardinals left. It's been 6 days.

Am I dealing with the same situation that occurs with green chromis and other schooling fish?
 

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I placed an order for ten red striped cardinals online and they all arrived alive and in good condition. I acclimated them for 1 1/2 hours and introduced them into my 240 gallon display tank. I have four pigmy angels and two orange striped cardinals that have been in the tank for several weeks. I observed very closely the behavior of my other fish when I introduced the ten cardinals and there was no hyper activity or extreme interest in the cardinals at all. Not even from the two orange striped cardinals and there never was. However, every day since they were introduced, the number has dwindled. I now only have four of the red striped cardinals left. It's been 6 days.

Am I dealing with the same situation that occurs with green chromis and other schooling fish?
I have been told there is no such thing as schooling salt water fish, there is a thread regarding ones that tolerate one another I believe they are being killed unless you don't have a lid then they are being chased out of the tank
 
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I have a lid. I thought schooling saltwater fish were made up of the same species whose swimming patterns were synchronous with each other. There didn't appear to be any aggression from the other fish in the tank. I even checked my sump and there were none in there.
 

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In had the same experience with Lyretails. Started with three lost one a day just the one left. No bodies could not find them anywhere. The ones that disappeared were female????
 

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I have a lid. I thought schooling saltwater fish were made up of the same species whose swimming patterns were synchronous with each other. There didn't appear to be any aggression from the other fish in the tank. I even checked my sump and there were none in there.
It’s splitting hairs but there aren’t aquarium fish that truly exhibit schooling or shoaling in our reef tanks. When you see a big group of chromis, or other fish, hanging out together they basically just like to hang out in the same area. If you create the right conditions it’s going to look like a school of fish.

In the case of chromis they hide in SPS branches so if you have a grown out SPS tank they’ll hang together in the water column waiting to dart to the safety of the acro branches. If you watch this from 30min on you’ll see his group of chromis . That looks a lot like a school of fish. He gets that effect by creating an environment where they have a safe place to hide but aren’t afraid to swim in the open water column.

A clownfish harem requires a lot of anemones, etc… it’s more about creating the environment where they’ll exhibit what looks like schooling.

It sounds like you have other tank mates breaking up the behavior you’re looking for.
 

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It’s splitting hairs but there aren’t aquarium fish that truly exhibit schooling or shoaling in our reef tanks. When you see a big group of chromis, or other fish, hanging out together they basically just like to hang out in the same area. If you create the right conditions it’s going to look like a school of fish.

In the case of chromis they hide in SPS branches so if you have a grown out SPS tank they’ll hang together in the water column waiting to dart to the safety of the acro branches. If you watch this from 30min on you’ll see his group of chromis . That looks a lot like a school of fish. He gets that effect by creating an environment where they have a safe place to hide but aren’t afraid to swim in the open water column.

A clownfish harem requires a lot of anemones, etc… it’s more about creating the environment where they’ll exhibit what looks like schooling.

It sounds like you have other tank mates breaking up the behavior you’re looking for.

Watched the video worth the time. Amazing about Blue Chromis. They mentioned that Green totally different. If I did not say it before there is an entire thread about people suggesting schooling fish
 
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Makes sense. I guess what I was looking for was a group of smaller fish that liked to hang together, whether were they are schooling or shoaling. I've always liked the idea of a group of smaller fish swimming together with other larger fish swimming independently. It reminds me more of an actual reef. I've never been able to achieve that.

I wonder how long the gentleman had the blue chromis in his tank? I gave up on chromis years ago and tried anthias and experienced the same problem. I'd catch a sale and buy 10 at a time and in a matter of two weeks they had dwindled down to 1 or 2. I didn't know I would have the same problem with the cardinals.
 

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I have a lid. I thought schooling saltwater fish were made up of the same species whose swimming patterns were synchronous with each other. There didn't appear to be any aggression from the other fish in the tank. I even checked my sump and there were none in there.
It’s splitting hairs but there aren’t aquarium fish that truly exhibit schooling or shoaling in our reef tanks. When you see a big group of chromis, or other fish, hanging out together they basically just like to hang out in the same area. If you create the right conditions it’s going to look like a school of fish.

In the case of chromis they hide in SPS branches so if you have a grown out SPS tank they’ll hang together in the water column waiting to dart to the safety of the acro branches. If you watch this from 30min on you’ll see his group of chromis . That looks a lot like a school of fish. He gets that effect by creating an environment where they have a safe place to hide but aren’t afraid to swim in the open water column.

A clownfish harem requires a lot of anemones, etc… it’s more about creating the environment where they’ll exhibit what looks like schooling.

It sounds like you have other tank mates breaking up the behavior you’re looking for.
Wow what a tank! I’ve heard this conversation before that we are getting chromis all wrong and there’s lots of different subspecies!
 

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It’s splitting hairs but there aren’t aquarium fish that truly exhibit schooling or shoaling in our reef tanks. When you see a big group of chromis, or other fish, hanging out together they basically just like to hang out in the same area. If you create the right conditions it’s going to look like a school of fish.

In the case of chromis they hide in SPS branches so if you have a grown out SPS tank they’ll hang together in the water column waiting to dart to the safety of the acro branches. If you watch this from 30min on you’ll see his group of chromis . That looks a lot like a school of fish. He gets that effect by creating an environment where they have a safe place to hide but aren’t afraid to swim in the open water column.

A clownfish harem requires a lot of anemones, etc… it’s more about creating the environment where they’ll exhibit what looks like schooling.

It sounds like you have other tank mates breaking up the behavior you’re looking for.

Watched the video worth the time. Amazing about Blue Chromis. They mentioned that Green totally different. If I did not say it before there is an entire thread about people suggesting schooling fish
Where can I find this thread thanks a million?
 

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