Return Pump not Shutting off

[kfries]

My return pump is not shutting off even though the pump outlet shows off. What is wrong with my programming? I have a Vectra S2 tied in with the MXM module. I am not using an Apex power bar. I am using the same program for feed mode A on my power heads and they shut off.
Here is what I have programmed:
Fallback ON
tdata 00:00:00,0,0,90,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
tdata 23:59:00,0,0,90,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
If FeedA 005 Then OFF
If Output B1_FeedMode = ON Then OFF
I am also trying to use a push button through my breakout box to trigger a feed mode instead of using the app. The system appears to be working at showing the pump outlets as off, but the pumps continue to run.

 

[BlueNem]

Based on the provided information, I suspect there might be a few things causing the return pump to continue running even when it's set to "off" in your program. Here are a few things to check and try:

1. Verify Output Control for the Return Pump

Ensure that the specific outlet controlling the return pump is correctly referenced in your program. It appears you might be controlling the outlet indirectly or with a variable (`B1_FeedMode`). Make sure this outlet is properly mapped and controlled.

For example:
```
If FeedA 005 Then OFF
If Output B1_FeedMode = ON Then OFF
```
This can be simplified or checked for syntax errors. Ensure that you're referencing the correct pump outlet in these conditions, i.e., something like `If Outlet X_FeedMode = ON Then OFF`.

2. Feed Mode Settings

Double-check the actual feed mode programming for the return pump. If you are using a button on the breakout box to trigger feed mode, ensure that the breakout box input is correctly tied into the system and is recognized by the Apex. Check if the breakout box trigger is properly setting the "FeedA" state to ON.

3. Fallback Settings

Your fallback is set to "ON," which will cause the return pump to stay on unless specifically instructed otherwise. This might be conflicting with the feed mode settings. Consider setting the fallback to "OFF" to allow the feed mode programming to take priority:

Example:
```
Fallback OFF
```

4. Check for Conflicting Programming

If you have any other programs controlling the return pump elsewhere (either in other modules or in more advanced scheduling), these could be overriding the feed mode commands. Go through all related programs and ensure that there are no conflicting rules for that specific outlet.

5. Test Button Trigger

When using the breakout box button for feed mode, manually test it through the Apex interface to see if the pump outlet actually responds to the "off" command when the button is pressed.

I hope this works for you.


Regards,

 

[LiquidSpace]

Hey, so I have the same question. MXM module except I don’t have this tied to a feed pump. I don’t have any special programming. I just have it to “always” but if I turn it off nothing happens, it’ll still run. Is there coding to make this so if I hit OFF it will actually turn off?

 

[kfries]

I sent a message to Neptune Systems, and they were pretty quick to reply. Unfortunately, this is the response:

"Thank you for contacting Neptune Systems! Unfortunately, the Vectra line of pumps cannot be turned off using coding in Fusion. You can turn them off via the outlet on an EB832, however this may cause them to go missing and is not recommended. Please do not hesitate to reach back out in future if there is anything we can assist with."

Needless to say, I was not able to get it to work the exact way I wanted it to. I did try to turn the pump down to 5% speed, but it was not working out the way I had hoped it would. I have AI lights and some AI power heads with the Vectra pump. I stuck with Mobius as it was easier to program the power heads and lights. I am still able to use the feed mode the way I like to use it by pressing one of the buttons on the AI power head controller.

I gave up on the MXM controller for now. It was really annoying switching back and fourth between Mobius and MXM as it deletes your profiles.
Good luck.

 

[Tangdora]

just picked an mxm Friday to pair my lights to sun rise and sun set schedules. While I control my pump on and off through the actual outlet on the EB I just tried to connect my l2 to the mxm directly and it turns offs with no issue if I switch the virtual outlet to off that created as a result of pairing. Even tried your code and activating the feed mode turns it off.

One question. How far away is your mxm from your controller.

Also one observation. After pairing to the mxm the light on the Vectra control now flashes between white and blue in nstead of just being solid blue. Is your doing the same?