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From this:
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My ideas sometimes go sideways from the norm and I tend to not plan too much and just do it. This thread is hopefully to give someone some ideas toward their own reef-pi build. Feel free to ask any questions and use any ideas to further your project.

Still some tidying of the external wiring to do but has been up and running for a week now. First delivery from Amazon was October 15. I started the process after about a week of reading a considerable amount of the reef-pi build thread by Ranjib. I was looking at the Apex system but was unable to justify the cost, so I started Googling open source reef controllers and I ran into reef-pi. My initial goal was just to control all the lights and pumps but there is so much more that this can do. As I was planning, I decided that the secondary goal was cleaning up and eliminating the mass of lighting power bricks, timers and making an easy to use system that my family could use for feeding time when I wasn't home. I incorporated a 24vdc power supply to run the 3 LED strips, a 5vdc power supply to run the pi and relays and a power monitor to keep tabs on energy usage. I'll still have roughly half what the Apex system would cost in it but this is up-gradable and because I built it, I can fix it! Muy importante!!!

The housing for the control module is pine with finger joints at the corners sanded and 2 coats of PolyCrylic clear, a channel to contain the aluminum mounting plate and enough room for future expansion. The main aluminum plate has the power supplies mounted to the back and the pi and everything else mounted to the front. There are 3 temp sensor ports and 3 24vdc connectors for the lights run by the 4 channel relay. The single outlet on the bottom is mounted at roughly 45 degrees to allow me to shrink the depth of the housing and that connects 120vac to the power module. There is a fuse on the 120vac input to each power supply for safety. Still need to put a fan in the top of the box and build the Plexiglass covers. Near future plans are a PH monitor circuit and a dimming circuit for the lights. Probably the Mean Well LDD series DC/DC LED controllers

The power module is a Radio Shack project box with 8 outlets mounted to the lid and an 8 channel solid state relay. The outlet holes were cut out with a dremel, I wasn't impressed with the results and plan on re-doing that at some point. I have an old T5 aluminum light housing that I was scrapping that will make a better power module housing and I'll have a buddy with a machine shop cut out the holes this time. The power cords for both the input power to the control module and the one from control to power module are 14 ga UPS cords that were unused from a system install at work. Stripped the outer insulation from sections of the same cords to use as hook-up wiring in the modules. The cable to trigger the relays is a 10 conductor 18ga solid core sprinkler cable from Lowes. I won't do that again, I will use 2 CAT5 network cables and heat shrink the whole mess to a single cable. I expected that I could use network connectors at the control box end but found out that the individual wires are way too big to fit, so I soldered and heat shrinked 8 network wires to the end to allow me to connect it. The 5vdc power is connected directly to the power supply.

Overall, I am VERY impressed at the amount of effort Ranjib and crew have put into this project!!! I really can't say enough good things about them. It's been a fun build so far.

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Yay :) . This is awesome . Thanks for taking the time to write your build thread , I bet others would find it very useful as well
I love the wooden housing details, being a beginner in wood working , it helps me a lot
 

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Great looking build!

I second what Diamond1 said above about the power usage monitor.

Thanks for sharing!
 
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I like the power usage monitor you added. Nice touch!

Great looking build!

I second what Diamond1 said above about the power usage monitor.

Thanks for sharing!

It's nice to be able to see how much or how little power each device is using and as reef-pi matures, hopefully can incorporate power monitoring into the software. My wish is that if it senses a power outage but have a UPS to turn off everything but the essentials (main pump or a power head) to give the longest available life from the battery.
 

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I Love you having everything mounted on the metal plate.. I cant tell by the image but be sure to Earth Ground that plate to everything. Or having the metal defeats the purpose...

SAFETY First right ..

Thank you for sharing
 

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It's nice to be able to see how much or how little power each device is using and as reef-pi matures, hopefully can incorporate power monitoring into the software. My wish is that if it senses a power outage but have a UPS to turn off everything but the essentials (main pump or a power head) to give the longest available life from the battery.

Funny you mention this. I just had a power outage and my reef-pi started back up just fine.
@Ranjib suggested having a backup sd card to reinstall reef-pi with all settings saved, because unexpected shutdowns can cause the card to go bad.
Having a battery back up might save the sd card from damage and run a low power pump or 2.
@Erica-Renee also suggested some kind of programing that could shut down the pi if it senses a power outage and saving it or the sd card from damge.

I would love to see if you come up with a solution for this.
 
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May we Please see the Display Tank

Still in progress. In wall Aqueon 90 that replaced a 75 that didn't have an overflow. That entailed cutting the wall up 4", so some wall repairs required. Upside is I am going to make the upper part of the wall hinge up for access this time! Corals will be in the tank this weekend, need to dip the frags.
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Funny you mention this. I just had a power outage and my reef-pi started back up just fine.
@Ranjib suggested having a backup sd card to reinstall reef-pi with all settings saved, because unexpected shutdowns can cause the card to go bad.
Having a battery back up might save the sd card from damage and run a low power pump or 2.
@Erica-Renee also suggested some kind of programing that could shut down the pi if it senses a power outage and saving it or the sd card from damge.

I would love to see if you come up with a solution for this.
There are a number of ways to attack this problem from a bank of batteries and/or a generator which keeps everything running with no attempt at conserving power. To a smaller UPS but smart software that monitors the incoming power and shuts down non-essentials like lights, skimmer, heater, etc. and cycles pumps and powerheads extending the battery life. A hardware solution would be a small battery bank with a contactor splitting the load. All non-essentials would be attached to the normally open connector on the contactor, while the main pump would be always on. Contactor supply is after the UPS input but its trigger would be before. So, when the power is on, contactor closed and everything gets power, power shuts off, contactor trigger drops out, opening and shutting off everything but the main pump. Hope that makes sense?
 
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I Love you having everything mounted on the metal plate.. I cant tell by the image but be sure to Earth Ground that plate to everything. Or having the metal defeats the purpose...

SAFETY First right ..

Thank you for sharing
I didn't run a ground directly to the plate because the power supplies ground goes to the case which is screwed right to the plate.
 

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There are a number of ways to attack this problem from a bank of batteries and/or a generator which keeps everything running with no attempt at conserving power. To a smaller UPS but smart software that monitors the incoming power and shuts down non-essentials like lights, skimmer, heater, etc. and cycles pumps and powerheads extending the battery life. A hardware solution would be a small battery bank with a contactor splitting the load. All non-essentials would be attached to the normally open connector on the contactor, while the main pump would be always on. Contactor supply is after the UPS input but its trigger would be before. So, when the power is on, contactor closed and everything gets power, power shuts off, contactor trigger drops out, opening and shutting off everything but the main pump. Hope that makes sense?

Nice explanation.
Good options to explore.
 

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I like the deep sandbed in your tank. I had a hard time keeping mine clean and cyano free. I went with barebottom (almost) few months ago. That allowed me to put powerhead downwards as well, which helps to avoid the detritous build up in odd places.
Sorry for the tangential post.. just something I noticed :)
 
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I like the deep sandbed in your tank. I had a hard time keeping mine clean and cyano free. I went with barebottom (almost) few months ago. That allowed me to put powerhead downwards as well, which helps to avoid the detritous build up in odd places.
Sorry for the tangential post.. just something I noticed :)
There are 2 engineer gobies in the tank and they push all the sand around and up to the glass. I guess because of that they would be considered CUC. We have had them for about 8-9 years now so they transitioned to the new tank.
 
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The reef-pi has been stable since I got it running, no glitches so far, aside from a very sluggish Chromium while running it local. Rebooting the pi would then run normally until it was unattended (screen saver?) again for a period of time. While remote from my desktop Linux PC, it performed normally. Ran updates and upgrades. Installed VNC and got it configured. Updated reef-pi to rc3.

Put a 200 watt heater in the tank last night. Have been monitoring the temp since install and had been staying between 76-77. It has gotten cooler here in FL. last few days and temp was in the 75 range so ordered a heater. Incrementally bumped up the temp while observing the on/off control from the reef-pi, was reliable so set temp was adjusted to 78. Adjusted the heater thermostat to slightly higher set temp as a fail-safe to the pi. Tested the telemetry; held 1 temp probe in my hand to exceed temp allowed and it sent emails, Perfect! Have both temp probe 1 and 2 set to email if temp is out of range as a fail-safe, if I only get notifications from 1 sensor I can remote in and turn off heater if deemed necessary.
 

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The reef-pi has been stable since I got it running, no glitches so far, aside from a very sluggish Chromium while running it local. Rebooting the pi would then run normally until it was unattended (screen saver?) again for a period of time. While remote from my desktop Linux PC, it performed normally. Ran updates and upgrades. Installed VNC and got it configured. Updated reef-pi to rc3.

Put a 200 watt heater in the tank last night. Have been monitoring the temp since install and had been staying between 76-77. It has gotten cooler here in FL. last few days and temp was in the 75 range so ordered a heater. Incrementally bumped up the temp while observing the on/off control from the reef-pi, was reliable so set temp was adjusted to 78. Adjusted the heater thermostat to slightly higher set temp as a fail-safe to the pi. Tested the telemetry; held 1 temp probe in my hand to exceed temp allowed and it sent emails, Perfect! Have both temp probe 1 and 2 set to email if temp is out of range as a fail-safe, if I only get notifications from 1 sensor I can remote in and turn off heater if deemed necessary.
I love the way you are approaching reliability with your build . I personally take very similar route , letting reef-pi do the hard and dumb works , while creating redundancy with the built in features of my equipment and finally setting up alerts and me getting involved when things go south and thing get tricky . I use at least two temp probes in each of my build now. They are very handy
 
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I love the way you are approaching reliability with your build . I personally take very similar route , letting reef-pi do the hard and dumb works , while creating redundancy with the built in features of my equipment and finally setting up alerts and me getting involved when things go south and thing get tricky . I use at least two temp probes in each of my build now. They are very handy
Yes, primary goals are reliability and redundancy. That's why I have 2 return pumps plumbed and operational. I've had 2 different return pumps die from lightning storms in the past, fortunately I was home both times and able to hook up a backup quickly. When I installed the new tank, I installed dual pumps. I had them on switches and would switch back and forth occasionally. Now, with the reef-pi, I have the secondary turn on for 20 minutes every couple hours to keep the lines clear.
 
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I figured I should add my parts list here, in case someone is following along on their own build. Most everything was purchased through Amazon, mainly because of the reliable shipping times. Some items could be sourced less expensively, like the perma-proto board from Adafruit if purchased directly through them. Here's the list.
Raspberry pi https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BDR5PDW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
5VDC power supply for pi and relays https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T6UJBU/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
perma-proto board https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R69LXJU/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Extended stacking pins, for perma-proto board and allowed pins on top for testing https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071H8R8C3/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Jumper wires, bought a whole box but used only 4 and cut off 1 end of those. Probably could have done without. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EV70C78/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Micro SD card, buy 2 just in case of corruption, you can swap out and be running in moments https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XWN9Q99/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Stand offs for pi and relay boards. Order a 2.5mm tap and corresponding drill bit if you want to screw right into plate. I through drilled and put nuts on the back. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0756CW6Y2/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Micro-USB cables, used to plug in the pi. Cut off the full size USB end and wired to 5VDC power supply. Bought these because they claimed to be 20awg, larger than most USB cables https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BMWL4QR/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Terminal strips, these worked well but are tiny. Used them for 120VAC connections on back of controller as well as in the power module. Order the smallest fork end or ring end crimp connectors to go with them https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010UDG6NG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Panel mount fuse holders. Used them in line with 120VAC power to the power supplies https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009WQPROM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Power monitor. Obviously not needed but I really like having it, can monitor line voltage and watts usage of each device https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YY1KOHA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Temp sensors, 5 pack. Each one worked right from the box, max variation between was less than 1 degree, used the 3 closest ones https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LY53CED/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Resistors, bought a selection for future use, use precisely 1 4.7kohm resistor for temp sensor pull down :) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y5Y76XX/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Female 3.5mm connectors. Bought 4, used 3. I like these screw down connectors. Every one of them worked, nuff said! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077XPSKQD/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Male 3.5mm connectors. just like above, just worked!https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016W9P4N0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
24VDC power supply for lights https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013ETVO12/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
4 channel relay for lights https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057OC5O8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Plugs for lights, matched the existing plugs on my light strips https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N21RV6G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Project box, good size for 8 outlets and a relay. Plastic is thin but enclosure is plenty robust with outlets mounted and screwed together. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001U7OUEY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
8 channel relay, the only part I am going to recommend something else for. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZZW7MI6/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It arrived with an unsoldered pin at channel 4 output. Soldered it but #4 is dead (not because of my soldering). I wanted the solid state because zero noise but I think I'm going to go with 8 standard or 4 solid states and 4 standards. Use the solid states for wave pumps and heaters, stuff that goes on and off all day. Haven't decided yet.
Cable glands, used for connections to power module and control module. Threaded part is very short and had to lose the rubber washer, otherwise work fine. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077R1RT2T/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Other parts used were:
4 Decora style outlets from Lowes.
1 single plug from Lowes, 120VAC to power module on bottom of control module.
18ga, 10 conductor sprinkler cord from Lowes, wanted 1 power and 1 control cord from control to power modules. NOT worth it, 2 pieces of cat5 would work MUCH better!
Aluminum plate is 1/8" thick cutoff from a local metal supply place.
1 - 1"x6"x8' piece of pine.
Many old computer power cords were harmed in the making of this unit!
I had 2 14 gauge computer style cords from a discard pile from a work project. More than up to the task.
Misc hardware from ACE hardware.
Probably some other stuff from my garage or trunk that I'm forgetting.

Hopefully this is some help...
 

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I figured I should add my parts list here, in case someone is following along on their own build. Most everything was purchased through Amazon, mainly because of the reliable shipping times. Some items could be sourced less expensively, like the perma-proto board from Adafruit if purchased directly through them. Here's the list.
Raspberry pi https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BDR5PDW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
5VDC power supply for pi and relays https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T6UJBU/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
perma-proto board https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R69LXJU/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Extended stacking pins, for perma-proto board and allowed pins on top for testing https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071H8R8C3/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Jumper wires, bought a whole box but used only 4 and cut off 1 end of those. Probably could have done without. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01EV70C78/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Micro SD card, buy 2 just in case of corruption, you can swap out and be running in moments https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XWN9Q99/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Stand offs for pi and relay boards. Order a 2.5mm tap and corresponding drill bit if you want to screw right into plate. I through drilled and put nuts on the back. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0756CW6Y2/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Micro-USB cables, used to plug in the pi. Cut off the full size USB end and wired to 5VDC power supply. Bought these because they claimed to be 20awg, larger than most USB cables https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BMWL4QR/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Terminal strips, these worked well but are tiny. Used them for 120VAC connections on back of controller as well as in the power module. Order the smallest fork end or ring end crimp connectors to go with them https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010UDG6NG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Panel mount fuse holders. Used them in line with 120VAC power to the power supplies https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009WQPROM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Power monitor. Obviously not needed but I really like having it, can monitor line voltage and watts usage of each device https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00YY1KOHA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Temp sensors, 5 pack. Each one worked right from the box, max variation between was less than 1 degree, used the 3 closest ones https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LY53CED/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Resistors, bought a selection for future use, use precisely 1 4.7kohm resistor for temp sensor pull down :) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y5Y76XX/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Female 3.5mm connectors. Bought 4, used 3. I like these screw down connectors. Every one of them worked, nuff said! https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077XPSKQD/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Male 3.5mm connectors. just like above, just worked!https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016W9P4N0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
24VDC power supply for lights https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013ETVO12/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
4 channel relay for lights https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0057OC5O8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Plugs for lights, matched the existing plugs on my light strips https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N21RV6G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Project box, good size for 8 outlets and a relay. Plastic is thin but enclosure is plenty robust with outlets mounted and screwed together. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001U7OUEY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
8 channel relay, the only part I am going to recommend something else for. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZZW7MI6/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It arrived with an unsoldered pin at channel 4 output. Soldered it but #4 is dead (not because of my soldering). I wanted the solid state because zero noise but I think I'm going to go with 8 standard or 4 solid states and 4 standards. Use the solid states for wave pumps and heaters, stuff that goes on and off all day. Haven't decided yet.
Cable glands, used for connections to power module and control module. Threaded part is very short and had to lose the rubber washer, otherwise work fine. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B077R1RT2T/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Other parts used were:
4 Decora style outlets from Lowes.
1 single plug from Lowes, 120VAC to power module on bottom of control module.
18ga, 10 conductor sprinkler cord from Lowes, wanted 1 power and 1 control cord from control to power modules. NOT worth it, 2 pieces of cat5 would work MUCH better!
Aluminum plate is 1/8" thick cutoff from a local metal supply place.
1 - 1"x6"x8' piece of pine.
Many old computer power cords were harmed in the making of this unit!
I had 2 14 gauge computer style cords from a discard pile from a work project. More than up to the task.
Misc hardware from ACE hardware.
Probably some other stuff from my garage or trunk that I'm forgetting.

Hopefully this is some help...
Thank you for listing these. I bet others will find it very useful
 

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