Skeletal Cuts of Frags?

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Received a head of torch coral today and looking at where the frag was cut you can see the “under belly” of the torch head.
1. Should I be concerned?
2. Should I try to seal the area? (Superglue or Epoxy?)
3. What would your feelings be if you received similar piece? ($250-350 frag )

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It almost looks cut than broke apart. Definitely not a clean cut. I could be wrong
 
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The second torch is worse..... Also the pieces are from a well known vendor, not a hobbyist, if that would make any difference in opinion.
Personally, I feel like it is highly probable that the coral would be aggravated to the point of the head releasing or disease/infection to enter the animal.
Pic of the of the other frag received yesterday. I had two different boxes due to number of corals ordered so they shipped two different days just in case there was a shipping issue only one box would be effected.... *or maybe because they had to chop up a few pieces?*

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I was under the impression that this is a fairly normal practice for creating frags. I think the reason it looks so different is that the long skeleton is also normally trimmed off and the fresh cut is glued to a plug.
I would only be concerned if they cut it too close to the flesh and you can see the polyps while looking up from below. If that is the case, some putty would be a good idea imo.
Otherwise, I would contact the vendor and let them know your concern and see if they have any recommendations. Reaching out now and following their advice might help with any potential future claims.
 
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I was under the impression that this is a fairly normal practice for creating frags. I think the reason it looks so different is that the long skeleton is also normally trimmed off and the fresh cut is glued to a plug.
I would only be concerned if they cut it too close to the flesh and you can see the polyps while looking up from below. If that is the case, some putty would be a good idea imo.
Otherwise, I would contact the vendor and let them know your concern and see if they have any recommendations. Reaching out now and following their advice might help with any potential future claims.
You can see flesh hanging out from the bottom of one and the other is visible but not hanging out.

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Have you contacted them yet? Wait until you pass your time and they say you’ve owned it to long. Therefore can’t complain about it.

Don’t wait to long, if you sold a coral to someone and took many hours or even days and then they complained, how would you think that would go?

If you did pay that much for that hammer, ask for a refund and send them back, I’m sure they’ll be stuck at paying the fees.
 

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You can see flesh hanging out from the bottom of one and the other is visible but not hanging out.

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I agree, that isn't good. I still suspect the frag will survive with only the damaged polyps bailing but I would send this picture to vendor.
 
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Looking at the two frags it appears they were once one. I inspecting a little further the piece with the larger exposed area looks to have been cut/ torn away from the other head as it was not fully developed. The damaged inflicted when cutting the flesh and the exposed innards would certainly make the coral(s) more susceptible the BJD from all articles I can find. Hoping not, but I certainly feel let down and disappointed...

The skeletons line up nearly identical.
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In the picture below you can see where the fleshy head was separated and was not fully grown apart. This is noticeable just above where you see the innards popping out of the skeleton.
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Looking at the two frags it appears they were once one. I inspecting a little further the piece with the larger exposed area looks to have been cut/ torn away from the other head as it was not fully developed. The damaged inflicted when cutting the flesh and the exposed innards would certainly make the coral(s) more susceptible the BJD from all articles I can find. Hoping not, but I certainly feel let down and disappointed...

The skeletons line up nearly identical.
FBF4E8DB-062B-427C-B5F6-212413A5AED8.jpeg

In the picture below you can see where the fleshy head was separated and was not fully grown apart. This is noticeable just above where you see the innards popping out of the skeleton.
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Personally, I'd say that's totally unacceptable. The fact that it is from a vendor is more upsetting as they should know better and inspect the coral for some time before shipping (not cutting and immediately putting it in a box and shipping it). Especially if it was a two head that they cut into separate heads (trying to maximize profit). I would get into contact with them ASAP. I may be biased, but one of my pet peeves is people that frag coral and sell it that day
 

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