The Wrasse Lover's Thread!

[Slocke]

Hooded flame? How do you like his color compared to some of your other wrasses? I saw you had a bunch planned for stock but couldn’t find a full tank view

It’s got the most bold colors of any fairy I’ve had. I think my longfin, C rubeus was maybe prettier but that was as much due to its long pectorals and a subtler but more pleasing color combo, but if you’re looking for bold bright colors this one is my winner!

 

[Crabby48]

I thought tsm had a longer qt but I had to find it through google links to their site not as easy from their actual site. And I thought I saw somewhere humblefish dropped them (didn’t read into it) - so I wasn’t sure if they were still a safe bet.

I saw fish hotel but was looking at marine collectors. Considered ocean devotion & tsm but figured Elliot might be best bet. So you think tsm is a lot safer?

I won’t say safer. To be honest 3 weeks in copper is enough in most cases. I have pulled wrasse 2-3 weeks without issue and my fish have had gill clipping and scale scrapings and had fish with known velvet and ich. As far as other issues tsm Elliot both got covered. As per book for ex stream safe TSM follows that protocol. That said they sell fish from time they come in all the way to full qt and adjust price longer they keep them.
Any one of those 3 is a safe bet. I can’t say.
Why humble dropped them was because TSM will sell a fish that passes inspection after qt without a 2 week observation. Not needed with proper qt in my eyes and everything done correct. They will examine a fish in a batch if they have doubt and hold them.
I love humble but yet we don’t always see eye to eye. He talked to me as I don’t really believe wrasse do poor in meds and never lost a fish in meds. At the end of the conversation he said I don’t fully qt as I don’t always hold for observation in a clean tank. Humble takes info proven and just passes it to people to understand.I can’t speak for ocean devotion as I never dealt with them. I didn’t like his qt process as much and also never had fish I wanted. Tsm may have less risk but other two are right up there.
Ask your self what your goal is. Coral and inverts can bring in ich and vlever more times then we know. Is your goal to stop an out break but if a tiny bit of ich that won’t hurt matter or not do to inverts and coral. With that I wouldn’t over think it.
If you qt fish I will say most won’t flinch at prazi but a few. Earls look like they struggle bad but don’t flinch in copper. Of a wrasse struggles in copper it’s around 3 weeks or just under. At that point they should be clean and I pull them but it’s rare. Metro I think is the risky med. I only use it if needed or bound to food with prazi for internal. Most wrasse its flukes and internal. Prazi with an extra dose most case you are okay. Ich and velvet go to wrasse gills so hard to spot. If you see spots on a wrasse it’s then in bad real shape

 

[Featherweight]

The guy in the back is Hologymnosus doliatus, another weird wrasse I have - I’d love a rhonodotus though.

Oh! And I still hunt for Splendens, although I can’t work out how many female pencils I want
I used to have 4-5 pencils at once - a pair of Splendens, Kaleidos, Labrynthus and i think I still had my Edwardi at that point.
And, for anyone interested, here’s all the pencils I’ve kept;
1. Edwardi (M)
2. Severnsi (M)
3. Splendens (M & F)
4. Kaleidos (M & F)
5. Labrynthus (F)
6. Polackorum (M) - only in an LFS, for now

My favourite? Well, obviously the first pencil I truly fell in love with, Kaleidos! There’s just something about both the males and females that no other pencil has.

Whoa

 

[Crabby48]

If I’m honest, it’s mainly down to also getting larger males - “supermale” Lineatus are never lasting more than 2 years, a female/young male I have gotten 4-5 from.

A lot of my wrasse are generally not skinny after the first 2 weeks of having them - Maybe not the fattest but definitely not skinny either.
As for mixing them, the only real way to work out if it works is through testing it out - You’ve seen my mix, it’s working for me, someone else may find it goes horrendously. I simply go by what I find through working in the trade and handling some of the most common wrasses to some of the rarer ones as well as the different genera.

Hold on please.
I’m not wasting time arguing with you as you never listen to me and other. That goes for here and other places. You make many people who actually know disgusted as you kill wrasse for you to say look at me. The end
I and others that gave you advice can prove their methods and all you do is prove you wrong.
it’s not about you but the life of a fish that relays on you. Maybe one day you will get that.
I’m done and will not reply. If you think I’m wrong prove me right. Want to grab a bunch of fish and see the out come from day one and years down the road? What fish, Choats Hemi’s, potters oh wait you never had the chance to kill a potters. Don’t matter to me you pick.
The few times me and others have you advice on fish wither under weight or just ratty you have an excuse. We told you the outcome of them going to due and they did. So please go fool someone else with your words as the people who know fish know the truth.

 

[Crabby48]

Also, check this dude out! Still going strong at 2 years. The Attenuatus and Lineatus both still try to compete with him for top position in the wrasse gang. Just a pain these guys never stay still long enough to get a decent photo of them - Cirrhilabrus aquamarinus

Exactly what I said two year’s ant crap. Also that one of a lot of dead fish we warned you would die. Stop making you look more a fool kid!

 

[Crabby48]

Whoa

Where are all the pencils now? Hmm.

 

[i cant think]

Where are all the pencils now? Hmm.

Kaleidos pair is still with me - They got a bit feisty for the Splendens, the others I had for a few months before they went downhill (rather than aggression it looked to be collection methods on the Severnsi). My Edwardi and Labrynthus? I did lose them - to wrasse aggression? Unlikely. Everything leaves pencils alone in my tank unless it’s other pencils and even then it’s more frequently minor aggression.

Exactly what I said two year’s ant crap. Also that one of a lot of dead fish we warned you would die. Stop making you look more a fool kid!

I respect you and everything, but you really need to work out timelines…

No abnormal wrasse on wrasse aggression was seen when I was near to the tank nor away from the tank (I have a camera on that system constantly after catching my Cleaner anihilate my first Kaleidos Pencil over a year ago now).

Also, before taking assumptions, actually look at the wrasses I have - they don’t border any of the guidelines for mixing. And yes I’ve broken them in the past - by the way the jade? Still behaves amazingly with other wrasses.

Believe what you want, however you seem to fail with looking at the timeline, instead just making assumptions.
Those 4 MIAs/deaths were over the last 2-3 months, not within a week or two.

The Rubricaudalis was old age - I got him as a maximum size, full male. He became lethargic, over the last few months prior to his death, he’s shown the signs of old age.

Twisted tamarins, I’ve struggled with these since losing my initial pair to Prazi, however my initial 2 were larger 2-3” specimens whereas the other I had was an inch of not smaller. My last one vanished about a month ago maybe just over.

Nahackyi was MIA a couple weeks ago, I can probably guess why and it wasn’t my wrasse being an issue, my Flame Back Angel has gotten a temper as he’s matured and those two would square up occasionally.

 

[i cant think]

Hold on please. I need to find a snorkel as $hits getting deep.
I’m not wasting time arguing with you as you never listen to me and other. That goes for here and other places. You make many people who actually know disgusted as you kill wrasse for you to say look at me.

Okay, so, you don’t want to argue, fair enough. So let’s keep it civil, you can do that right?

I don’t just go out and kill wrasses for the sake of it. You unfortunately don’t see that, which is fine - everyone has their own views.

The endI and others that gave you advice can prove their methods and all you do is prove you wrong.
it’s not about you but the life of a fish that relays on you. Maybe one day you will get that.

You gave me advice, sure. But when? 4 years ago. Since then, I’ve had barely anything unfortunately. So you can’t just go and say I ignored your advice, because actually for the advice you gave me 4 years ago? I listened to that. You may not realise it, but I did. If you think that I ignored it, then as much as I respect you, I think your advice is what was incorrect for the outcome that is here.

I’m done and will not reply. If you think I’m wrong prove me right. Want to grab a bunch of fish and see the out come from day one and years down the road? What fish, Choats Hemi’s, potters oh wait you never had the chance to kill a potters. Don’t matter to me you pick.

Unfortunately, you don’t realise how long I’ve handled wrasses and actually I have had potters prior to my time on R2R. Infact, in the display at the LFS I previously worked in, there was a stunning adult potters in there. And that guy thrived from a juvenile.
But again, believe what you want, it’s not my opinion to have.

The few times me and others have you advice on fish wither under weight or just ratty you have an excuse. We told you the outcome of them going to due and they did. So please go fool someone else with your words as the people who know fish know the truth.

Unfortunately, whilst you think you have me advice on skinny fish, you haven’t. You seem to view my fish as skinny now - but it has only just occurred. And I’ll be honest, there isn’t any truly up to date photo of all 15 wrasses I have, but if I did, you’d see just how fat they are. Again, they aren’t the fattest, but they aren’t skinny either.

As for “the outcome of them going to die” nobody said that unfortunately, and well, if you think you said that, I’m sorry but as far as I’ve seen, you haven’t.

 

[Tcook]

Disco ball coral

What do you do with an almost complete ball of coral? Disco ball!! https://photos.app.goo.gl/daCUwjU1r1TFYsW19

www.reef2reef.com

Missed that somehow

 

[i cant think]

The Pinkies from my Macro tank! Pretty bad photos as they’re both still quite camera shy but they’re loving their little Macro/Gorgonian haven.

I also believe these two are another spawning pair. I must be doing something right with pink streaks, I don’t know what but this is now the second time I’ve had spawning occur between a pair.

 

[kyreefville]

What was I thinking
As much as I love this guy and so active but the bully of the tank and I have wondered/hoped that he’s an older wrasse with few days left in this world.

One day I went to feed and he jumped out of the tank, hit me in the face and fell on the floor. Acting fast I scooped him up and threw back in the tank.

Now I’m sitting here as he continues to bully every fish in tank and I think why did I do that!

Next time I will be ready!

 

[i cant think]

Just wanted to show this guy off!! Landed him yesterday and now he’s just settling in. Have to say, in the flesh these things are showstoppers!

 

[i cant think]

Couple more shots of the Randalli I’ve landed, I think these top the list for favourite Cirrhilabrus wrasse.

 

[i cant think]

Finally! Look who decided to pose for a photo!!
The female pinkie is still incredibly shy, but also these two are almost constantly in spawning mode, hence such vibrant colours in the male and what I find is the female becomes much shyer once they begin spawning.

 

[Slocke]

Anyone know for sure if H annularis is proper or not. Seems like marginatus was split into 3?

Annularis, Lamarii, and marginatus?

 

[i cant think]

Anyone know for sure if H annularis is proper or not. Seems like marginatus was split into 3?

Annularis, Lamarii, and marginatus?

From what I’ve seen, they are all treated as Marginatus but just viewed as regional variants. If I remember, @SaltyT said that Annularis was a synonym for Marginatus. But I don’t know if she said anything about Lamarii.

 

[i cant think]

My male pink streak has been showing some more of his territorial dominance, but not really towards the female, instead towards me!


And some photos before I got that video!

 

[Slocke]

From what I’ve seen, they are all treated as Marginatus but just viewed as regional variants. If I remember, @SaltyT said that Annularis was a synonym for Marginatus. But I don’t know if she said anything about Lamarii.

I saw something on inaturalist saying they'd been split in 2023 but it looks like fishbase hasn't split them so I'm sticking with them all being marginatus

 

[i cant think]

I saw something on inaturalist saying they'd been split in 2023 but it looks like fishbase hasn't split them so I'm sticking with them all being marginatus

Man 2023 was really the year they took one look at wrasse scientifics and thought yep, let’s mess with them even more.

Swear Cirrhilabrus finifenmaa and Cirrhilabrus rubrisquamis came out of March 2023.

 

[tbrown]

When did Yellow Coris come out?