The Wrasse Lover's Thread!

[alberthiel]

39 Gallon w 20g sump. 2 Ocellaris clowns and 1 firefish.

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And that Firefish did not jump with those 2 Clowns in there if I may ask ?

 

[evolved]

Female lubbocks

Transitional male (sub male) actually. Beautiful rubrimarginatus. :)

 

[fraggingfish]

Nice female flame picture.
Actually Sub Male.

 

[ReefJeeper]

Transitional male (sub male) actually. Beautiful rubrimarginatus. :)

Thanks, How can you tell? i use kuiters book for referencing but it doesnt go into too much detail.Does stay with the male almost always. And they sleep together.

 

[evolved]

Thanks, How can you tell? i use kuiters book for referencing but it doesnt go into too much detail.Does stay with the male almost always. And they sleep together.

Easy; because females look like this:

The fact it is showing male coloration yet still has the tailspot makes it a transitional male.

They might always tolerate each other, but there also might well come a day the do not. If they start nipping/ripping fins, locking jaws, or one forces the other into continuous hiding, you'll need to remove one.

 

[Arkaeus]

Dot-Dash Flasher

Dot-Dash Flashing



Yellow-carpenters hybrid

 

[evolved]

Yellow-carpenters hybrid

FWIW: not a hybrid; just a P. flavianalis (yellow fin). 1-4 dorsal filaments are acceptable.

And that's a fine example of a P. lineopunctatus; one of the most undervalued IMO.

 

[Arkaeus]

FWIW: not a hybrid; just a P. flavianalis (yellow fin). 1-4 dorsal filaments are acceptable.

And that's a fine example of a P. lineopunctatus; one of the most undervalued IMO.

Good to know about the Yellow Flasher Evolve. and yes P. lineopunctatus is my favorite flasher besides the Mccoskeri.

 

[watchguy123]

 

[ReefJeeper]

Easy; because females look like this:


The fact it is showing male coloration yet still has the tailspot makes it a transitional male.

They might always tolerate each other, but there also might well come a day the do not. If they start nipping/ripping fins, locking jaws, or one forces the other into continuous hiding, you'll need to remove one.

Thanks for the clarification. i noticed she/he? was starting to color up more. So far no issues at all but I will keep an eye on them.

 

[Xingu]

This is my Mystery. How can you tell the sexes apart? What other wrasses could I possibly keep with it?
It is in a 6 foot, 150 gallon tank.

 

[ReefJeeper]

This is my Mystery. How can you tell the sexes apart? What other wrasses could I possibly keep with it?
It is in a 6 foot, 150 gallon tank.

Theres no noticable differences that i know of, except a mature mystery is male and juvies are sexually undeveloped. They vary alot in agressiveness, to the point that some dont tolerate other wrasse at all. Its dependant on the fish. Personally, i keep two mysteries and a few other species of wrasse in a 95 with no issues. I added the juvenile mystery about a year after the male. Usually when you add a new wrasse to a tank with established wrasses, or an established wrasse decides to turn male, the hierarchy will reestablish itself. This may include flashing displays, and or some brief chasing for a day or two

 

[db1317]

Usually when you add a new wrasse to a tank with established wrasses, or an established wrasse decides to turn male, the hierarchy will reestablish itself. This may include flashing displays, and or some brief chasing for a day or two

I introduced 2 cosmetus and 1fiji xmas wrasses all at the same time. The 2 cosmetus got along really well with each other in the beginning. The smallest cosmetus chased the fiji into hiding for a week. Then after a few months, the largest cosmetus did the same thing to the smallest cosmetus. After about a week of that chasing, the smallest cosmetus is now no longer being chased by the largest cosmetus and all three are co-existing. Was a new hierarchy established? If so, as long as no new halichores are added, can I expect them to continue to co-exist?

 

[evolved]

The Pseudocheilinus genus is not sexually dichromatic, therefore you cannot determine sex by looking at them.

Also, the Pseudocheilinus genus typically do not tolerate other wrasses in the same tank, whether they be of the same or different genera. To what degree varies with each species in the genus, but the safe approach is to not add potential victims.

Summary: your mystery could be either male or female; don't add any other wrasses.

This may include flashing displays, and or some brief chasing for a day or two

Or death in extreme cases.

 

[evolved]

I introduced 2 cosmetus and 1fiji xmas wrasses all at the same time. The 2 cosmetus got along really well with each other in the beginning. The smallest cosmetus chased the fiji into hiding for a week. Then after a few months, the largest cosmetus did the same thing to the smallest cosmetus. After about a week of that chasing, the smallest cosmetus is now no longer being chased by the largest cosmetus and all three are co-existing. Was a new hierarchy established? If so, as long as no new halichores are added, can I expect them to continue to co-exist?

A new hierarchy, yes; for now. It can change as individuals age and mature. They'll probably be fine together, but be aware there's always a small chance that could change with little apparent reason.

 

[ReefJeeper]

Mystery wrasse have a bad reputation. They do have an edgy attitude towards other fish. Mines only ever had a problem with one wrasse, just so happened to be the most expensive ive ever bought though.. Evolved is probably right. Better safe than sorry. Psuedocheilinus are feisty little guys

 

[evolved]

Mystery wrasse have a bad reputation. They do have an edgy attitude towards other fish. Mines only ever had a problem with one wrasse, just so happened to be the most expensive ive ever bought though.. Evolved is probably right. Better safe than sorry. Psuedocheilinus are feisty little guys

In the words of Bob Fenner: "Small, but pugnacious"

 

[buddythelion]

Got these three wrasses again. Lost them in my last black out months ago which shattered the heater and stray electricity and temperature swung without us knowing. :(

But these three are gorgeous!

Here's the pics. Not the greatest, but once in the tank I'll never be able to photograph them again.

Female Rhomboid:

Male Rhomboid (check out that diamond tail):

Balteatus Wrasse:

 

[evolved]

Always the show stopper: A. femininus. And peaking in is M. choati I see. I will commend you for having the fortitude to throw the Thalassoma in there however.

 

[Xingu]

Summary: your mystery could be either male or female; don't add any other wrasses.

That is what I was afraid of.
Thanks for the reply and info.