This looks bad

[hillg2784]

Why is this?? It looks bad and don’t have the means to hospital all live stock in the next 48-72hrs.

 

[Mike7744]

Looks like ICK

 

[TylerHaworth]

Second that it looks like ich

 

[hillg2784]

What about the giant looming scars that are now showing, they are new.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Why is this?? It looks bad and don’t have the means to hospital all live stock in the next 48-72hrs.

This is a combination of mucus cones mixed in with ich and often from a skin irritation and you will notice other occupants show no signs but recommended is to remove all fish and treat them as well using coppersafe or copper power for a full 30 days at 2.25ppm which they respond to well and add an air stone and monitor copper level with a reliable Copper Test kit such as Hanna Brand- No API brand. Also monitor Ammonia levels while in quarantine with a reliable test kit and add aeration during treatment using an air stone.

 

[hillg2784]

What should I do in the mean time? I’m notable to remove 16 fish and get them into copper right away.

 

[Mebbid]

If you can get the tang out and put it into a hospital tank,, that's better than nothing. It'll fuel the ich outbreak to plague proportions that will start to affect the other fish.

 

[strich]

Just as an alternative - If it is easier to remove all inverts, CUC, coral and macro algae you can put the whole tank into a hypo salinity protocol for 30 days which will eradicate the ick without having to setup a QT for such a huge bioload. I am currently in the last few days of this myself as my tank had very few corals and CUC it was the far easier choice than trying to build a robust QT tank for 12 fish.

 

[hillg2784]

Power brown didn’t make it. I have no coral just some snails, hermit crabs, one shrimp and an anemone. Is this an effective way of removing ich?

 

[Kooma]

Yes you can eradicate it this way and not introduce copper to your rocks.

Any new fish added in the last two weeks?

 

[hillg2784]

Nothing added in the last two weeks.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Why is this?? It looks bad and don’t have the means to hospital all live stock in the next 48-72hrs.

That's for sure marine ich. The other discolored areas are likely secondary bacterial infection from the ich parasite.

What other fish are in the tank? How many invertebrates? In order to save the fish, you are going to need to run a copper or hyposalinity treatment. In either case, the fish will need to be separate from the corals/invertebrates. You could move the fish out to a hospital tank and treat with chelated copper, or you could move all the invertebrates out and treat the tank with hyposalinity.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Here is my write-up on hyposalinity:

Hyposalinity

Hyposalinity Jay Hemdal 2024 This term refers to a long-term bath treatment for marine fishes in which the salt content of the water is lowered and held below the point that certain parasites can survive. The salt level reached, and the time of the treatment are the two variables...

www.reef2reef.com

 

[strich]

Power brown didn’t make it. I have no coral just some snails, hermit crabs, one shrimp and an anemone. Is this an effective way of removing ich?

Ah so sorry to hear that mate! One of my blue tangs was at about the same stage pictured last month and I was lucky enough he held out until I brought the tank down in salinity enough to kill the ick multiplying further.
Hopefully none of your other fish are presenting ick in great numbers yet - My 2 tangs were the only ones every really showing it at the time. I would recommend reading through Jay's articles on the 2 methods and setting one up soon.

 

[hillg2784]

I guess I’ll remove what inverts I can find and get them into a little 10gallon tank, I guess just feed them algae pellets?

Can you had new livestock during this period? Or is that resetting the 30 day cycle?

 

[strich]

If you're taking about adding the incoming CUC to the holding tank, yes. But it adds a bit of risk - the holding tank going fish free for 30 days allowed time for fish diseases to die off due to lack of a host. Your new incoming livestock might be coming in with their own diseases.

But if I were in your position I would risk that since I wouldn't have space for yet another holding tank.

 

[hillg2784]

If you're taking about adding the incoming CUC to the holding tank, yes. But it adds a bit of risk - the holding tank going fish free for 30 days allowed time for fish diseases to die off due to lack of a host. Your new incoming livestock might be coming in with their own diseases.

But if I were in your position I would risk that since I wouldn't have space for yet another holding tank.

Was thinking of adding to the display during this period. Possibly buying from a place that also runs hyposalinity like reef beauties online.

 

[hillg2784]

That's for sure marine ich. The other discolored areas are likely secondary bacterial infection from the ich parasite.

What other fish are in the tank? How many invertebrates? In order to save the fish, you are going to need to run a copper or hyposalinity treatment. In either case, the fish will need to be separate from the corals/invertebrates. You could move the fish out to a hospital tank and treat with chelated copper, or you could move all the invertebrates out and treat the tank with hyposalinity.

4 × Clownfish
1 × Debelius Fairy Wrasse
2 × Lubbock’s Fairy Wrasse
2 x Canary top Wrasse
1 x Melanurus Wrasse
1 x Orange Fin Tomini Tang
1 x Blue Eye Kole Tang
1 x Coral Beauty
1 x Bicolor Foxface
1 x Purple Tang

 

[Jay Hemdal]

4 × Clownfish
1 × Debelius Fairy Wrasse
2 × Lubbock’s Fairy Wrasse
2 x Canary top Wrasse
1 x Melanurus Wrasse
1 x Orange Fin Tomini Tang
1 x Blue Eye Kole Tang
1 x Coral Beauty
1 x Bicolor Foxface
1 x Purple Tang

That’s a lot of valuable fish, I’d move the few inverts you have out to another fishless tank for 69 days and run hypo in your DT with the fish.

You need to move quickly though - once fish loss starts due to ich, things progress rapidly due to the geometric progression in which the parasites multiply.

 

[hillg2784]

Out of curiosity could I run a qt for 30 days running copper and at the same time in the display run hyposalinity to skip a 78 day fallow period?

Can I also run hyposalinity on the qt for an added redundancy?