areefer01
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No, it means to clarify what the difference is between them other than the possible location. Is there a color variance? Is there a size variance? Is there a life expectancy variance? Have the discussion. No mind stories.
True Hawaiian Yellow tangs for sale !!
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No, it means to clarify what the difference is between them other than the possible location. Is there a color variance? Is there a size variance? Is there a life expectancy variance? Have the discussion. No mind stories.
lol mind stories, I love seeing that reference
very punny, I see what you did there...lol
Not only are the Biota captive bred yellow tang bred and raised in Hawaii, they trace their lineage directly to Hawaiian yellow tang parents or ancestors. They are genetically identical to wild Hawaiian yellow tang.
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DirectCherry
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Technically speaking, the ad is correct. They are Hawaiian Yellow Tangs. However, it seems they were intentionally vague in the ad to trick people into paying higher prices for what they think are wild-caught Hawaiian Yellow Tangs.
However, out of curiosity, I used their contact form on the website to ask if they were captive bred or wild caught and their response was:
"Hello, they're bred in Hawaii"
At least they are honest if you ask. Still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
However, out of curiosity, I used their contact form on the website to ask if they were captive bred or wild caught and their response was:
"Hello, they're bred in Hawaii"
At least they are honest if you ask. Still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
slingfox
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Their response is technically true but completely sidestepped your question. I prefer to do business with honest business owners when possible. This business does not inspire confidence.
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They are saying 2” which are $250 from biota.
Thst should tell you everything you need to know. Being ambiguous on purpose to attract sales and lure the unsuspecting.
Nano_Man
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Simple fact tangs are yellow and I wouldn’t know if it was wild or captive bred only on someone telling me but remember never believe everything people tell you . The reef game is getting out of hand on pricing in the 90 a decent size tang was £50 and corals the size of your hands £45to£50 and with a lump of live rock on it . I love yellow tangs and have kept them many years ago but I would not fill dealers pockets with over the top prices . People say they have overhead’s yes that’s true but they wouldn’t be in the game if they weren’t making money. I hate the saying this is a rich man’s hobby this hobby should be available for everyone rich or poor but the way things are going maybe it will end up been a rich man’s game
RedoubtReef
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I emailed them and asked directly if they were from Biota and this was the response. This is deceptive and disingenuous. The guy should just say they are from Biota, bred in Hawaii if he wants to market them as 'Hawaiian' yellow tangs.
I think its the the price that is making the difference, let's be honest if it was 30$ no one would care what name came before "yellow tang" it's all these high prices on corals and fish that's making it more important that the name can be verified and matches the price tag.
RedoubtReef
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Yeah, that is a problem considering they're $100 more than ordering from Biota.
Hawaiian Yellow Tang
Zebrasoma flavescens-The yellow tang is the most iconic aquarium fish around the world. Bright yellow in coloration and endemic to the islands of Hawaii this is a fish we breed in conjunction with the Oceanographic Institute of Hawaii Pacific University. These are voracious herbivores do well...
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frydaddy
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Biota 2” tangs are $250, the 1” are $165. So if they are 2” that’s only $10 more than biota charges directly.Yeah, that is a problem considering they're $100 more than ordering from Biota.
Hawaiian Yellow Tang
Zebrasoma flavescens-The yellow tang is the most iconic aquarium fish around the world. Bright yellow in coloration and endemic to the islands of Hawaii this is a fish we breed in conjunction with the Oceanographic Institute of Hawaii Pacific University. These are voracious herbivores do well...
It is important to note that it cost something to ship, acclimate, and feed fish. Overhead is a concept many of you in the hobby do not understand. If you own a business you understand. If you don't your education is lacking! Their prices seem very reasonable considering the cost of a retail operation these days. Though crowd here and another reason I left the aquarium industry after more than 25 years! Run a business before you criticize somebody who is just trying to survive in the aquarium business.
RedoubtReef
Valuable Member
Still seems a better option to buy direct than from someone that won't admit where they got them. You could still end up with a 1.75" tang at the $160 price. They're only $250 if they're 2+ inches.
klc
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I've got both of you guys beat, in 1988 yellow tangs were $9.99 at Orange Coast Tropical Fish in Buena Park, California.
I think yellow tangs are overrated, I wouldn't mind having one if it were free but I wouldn't spend big money on one just to have it. I have a very nicely patterned scopas tang these days so I probably couldn't have a yellow anyways.
I also see nothing wrong with the original ad, the buyer should do their own due diligence for any fish that expensive anyways. I know I would.
areefer01
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Biota's Yellow Tang for $165 US is 1.25 inches. Personal opinion I don't think it matters one way or the other but having purchased several different fish from them, most recently a Milletseed Butterfly, I prefer the smaller.
You raise a valid point. It can equally be said then that a higher cost in captive bred, or raised, animals are priced accordingly and justified. Sadly you and I both know that isn't always the case. Many here, and elsewhere, argue they should be equal to or cheaper than wild.
Two wrongs don't make a right of course but to also be fair the post title, and vendor selling, are both misleading. None of which has anything to do with the price. I am in the camp of small businesses as they are the back bone of the US economy. Ignoring that I'm also very biased and believe everything as it relates to fish and animals in this hobby should be captive bred or raised, or corals aquaculture, or shared between hobbyist with fish only being special ordered when not raised or bred in captivity. The nuclear option is crazy I know.
Hope you are doing well.
cpschult
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So uh, any work being done with potters wrasse?
me too, I have a 40$ scopas right now that has great colors and lines and is more interesting than a 300$ yellow all day long, unfortunately he is picture shy and never let's me get a good picture of him!
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