Guys, I think we should let the scientists rebut the science nerd. If his questions warrant a response, I am sure Randy et al will give him one. Until then, the sniping only lowers the quality of the thread.
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They have repeatedly,hence why I’m ignoring himGuys, I think we should let the scientists rebut the science nerd. If his questions warrant a response, I am sure Randy et al will give him one. Until then, the sniping only lowers the quality of the thread.
You are right. Sorry, I should have refrained from engaging.Guys, I think we should let the scientists rebut the science nerd. If his questions warrant a response, I am sure Randy et al will give him one. Until then, the sniping only lowers the quality of the thread.
isn’t that what I just said ? lolGuys, I think we should let the scientists rebut the science nerd. If his questions warrant a response, I am sure Randy et al will give him one. Until then, the sniping only lowers the quality of the thread.
I continue to feel that I am watching a dress rehearsal. If true, you can expect to see that the Vibrant defense will be an aggressive attempt to discredit the NMR data.^^Just a friendly Redit user. No agenda. Nothing to see here
Initial samples were clear, and the NMR operator confirmed to me what @jeffww said, and how this stuff behaved when I dried it (much less thoroughly). It redissolved in D2O clear and without residues, so near 100% into NMR tube.Were the initial samples of vibrant and algaefix clear, cloudy?
When the dried samples were taken back up in D2O, were they clear? Cloudy? Was there substantial material that did not redissolve or resuspend?
Just trying to understand what fraction of the dissolved/suspended material in the initial bottle actually went into the NMR tube. 90+%? 1%? etc..
Pretty sure that I am pretty friendly but that is probably just my own confirmation bias.
Questions don't scare me. Misinformation does.
We really should be counting caloriesWith acknowledgment that I might be feeding the trolls,
At least we now have a Vibrant spokesperson online, oops, sorry, disinterested new R2R member seeking truth and justice (wink, wink).41 pages and we’ve yet to see UWC results
I am about to call it day, but since you mentioned conspiracy, you tempted me to pile on. The new user is not a Vibrant spokesman but the third party that is selling the swimming pool additive that contains the polyquat going into Vibrant. This company is trying trying to snow us and the Vibrant folks. Could make for a good movie. Not sure how it ends though. Good night worldTo deny the NMR results is to deny science. This would then mean that any argument being made that used science would also be no good. However, this kind of reasonable thought might be lost on unreasonable people.
UWC account has not been on here since Feb. Given how often they were browsing these threads before, I find it unlikely that they are not still browsing but just still logged in as some other user. This should be easily found by any admin that can look for posts by IP - here is a side-eye glance to one of you admins to look. I am not a conspiracy kind of guy, but this anecdote is enough for me to wonder about some of these users. I swear that one of these new users was from Michigan a day ago and now from Canada, but I could be imagining this. My guess is that nobody ever hears from UWC again and they are just leaving all to wonder while as much product sells that can.
Anybody could use a VPN to hide IPs, but if one was that smart they might also know that anybody can figure out lies eventually.
At the end of the day there is Google maps and brick and mortar. Not sure how any lfs could hide behind a guy with an algae/mulloscicide sign for too long.To deny the NMR results is to deny science. This would then mean that any argument being made that used science would also be no good. However, this kind of reasonable thought might be lost on unreasonable people.
UWC account has not been on here since Feb. Given how often they were browsing these threads before, I find it unlikely that they are not still browsing but just still logged in as some other user. This should be easily found by any admin that can look for posts by IP - here is a side-eye glance to one of you admins to look. I am not a conspiracy kind of guy, but this anecdote is enough for me to wonder about some of these users. I swear that one of these new users was from Michigan a day ago and now from Canada, but I could be imagining this. My guess is that nobody ever hears from UWC again and they are just leaving all to wonder while as much product sells that can.
Anybody could use a VPN to hide IPs, but if one was that smart they might also know that anybody can figure out lies eventually.
You guys are giving him a hard time but could be he’s just a contrarian. I’ve been accused of that. Although it is odd he came directly to this but I’ll give him the benefit of doubt since I’m not going to start accusing others without facts. Plus we all have the same right to post our opinions. Even if it’s not what aligns with us.At least we now have a Vibrant spokesperson online, oops, sorry, disinterested new R2R member seeking truth and justice (wink, wink).
There's no bigger contrarion here than me thats had threads and ideas totally canceled and shut down besides me and maybe @brandon429 and a couple others.You guys are giving him a hard time but could be he’s just a contrarian. I’ve been accused of that. Although it is odd he came directly to this but I’ll give him the benefit of doubt since I’m not going to start accusing others without facts. Plus we all have the same right to post our opinions. Even if it’s not what aligns with us.
That said. UWC better have an ironclad explanation of how it’s not as being claimed by these tests or how they got scammed because I don’t see this ending well for them. My point on how many pages in we already are plus didn’t even mentioned the fact there’s several other threads going. Funny if UWC seen driving a white Bronco running from the Tang Police
no one will accuse me of running for mayor of R2R either….There's no bigger contrarion here than me thats had threads and ideas totally canceled and shut down besides me and maybe @brandon429 and a couple others.
Let's not continue to put that kind of confusion in the mix here. I could and probably should have been banned at least 5 times now but for whatever reason I'm still here.
This thread ain't about that I promise or it would have been shut down long ago.
Contrarians come to the table for a fight, to enlighten the ignorant. Contrarians rarely back down, and love to obsessively refute any fact or counter argument. In a sense they are the kid that loves to poke wasp nests with a stick. The contrarian wants a hard time because this means he’s hooked his opponents into a fight.You guys are giving him a hard time but could be he’s just a contrarian. I’ve been accused of that. Although it is odd he came directly to this but I’ll give him the benefit of doubt since I’m not going to start accusing others without facts. Plus we all have the same right to post our opinions. Even if it’s not what aligns with us.
That said. UWC better have an ironclad explanation of how it’s not as being claimed by these tests or how they got scammed because I don’t see this ending well for them. My point on how many pages in we already are plus didn’t even mentioned the fact there’s several other threads going. Funny if UWC seen driving a white Bronco running from the Tang Police