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There are no secrets here. We are constantly trying new things. If CP was more readily available it would fix alot of things. The other problem is that not all Genus will tolerate CP. Our main goal is to help hobbyists as a whole combat this. So we are trying to come up with a solid prophylactic treatment that the fish will tolerate and all bases are covered.Yea that is so true!!!! Glad you guys are trying to figure this out and sharing the information with us!
Because Paulb doesn't add fish frequently. He also keeps very hardy parasite resistant fish. (Other than the cool pipefish).Why doesn't @Paul B have any of these problems?
Out of curiosity..... imo doesn't it seem a bit shady to medicate fish at the wholesaler with just enough meds to suppress the disease long enough for the LFS to receive the specimen? Than the LFS is stuck with a dead fish with no refund, or us the consumer.......imo I always was leary of buying fish from a LFS that ran low level copper in their tanks to mask diseases.... that's why all you guys say never trust a LFS to do the QT for you.....[emoji6]
Why doesn't @Paul B have any of these problems?
I got 3 resplendent anthias from LA last week that seemed healthy upon arrival but all died within 2 days. I have 3 more coming from divers den on Thursday. Was hoping to have better luck with DD over LA. Should I be concerned and start treating with metro immediately just in case? I plan on doing TTM.
All the anthias I lost to suspected Uronema came from DD. I didn't scope them, so it's possible it was a bacterial infection with very similar markings, but they died with that same mouth open pose and line shaped hemorages.
Some of those vendors are just removing the guarantees altogether, or altering them significantly. Most wholesalers only ensure they aren’t DOA to the LFS— anything after that is on the LFS. So I hope you’re right that LFS and retailers get to a point that they’ve had enough!
That’s not good guess I’ll start treating right away just in case.All the anthias I lost to suspected Uronema came from DD. I didn't scope them, so it's possible it was a bacterial infection with very similar markings, but they died with that same mouth open pose and line shaped hemorages.
The last 3 I bought from regular LA and they were asymptomatic. I treated them immediately with trifecta just in case though.
Will feeding metro soaked food while doing TTM be good enough to treat the uronema?Wow, it's shocking that DD would have uronema in their systems.The open mouth thing is a classic symptom of uronema in postmortem chromis damsels.
Will feeding metro soaked food while doing TTM be good enough to treat the uronema?
No, you need to treat the water with either CP or metro to eliminate any external parasites on the fish.
Okay. Thanks. Should I have the metro already in the TTM tanks before putting the fish in?
A local LFS I rescued 4 fish from yesterday. A copperband I couldn’t turn down because it was eating voraciously and very large, a magnificent foxface, Caribbean blue tang, and a small Desjardini Sailfin tang. I couldn’t help it I was able to help them and I wanted them anyway.
But there was a purple tang there so badly afflicted with velvet, see photo below. I’m sure the fish I bought have it too but I’ll give them a chance. The store assured me this purple would survive because he is “in copper” (an amount they could not inform me because they didn’t know). After an argument with them and offering to buy it for a tiny fraction of the $180 they wanted I gave up. I’m sure it’s gone now
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Can metro (in water) and copper be done at the same time?
Since this is becoming a popular uronema thread, below is what uronema will look like under a microscope if you take a skin scrape:
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I will post this info to the uronema sticky as well, when I update it.