The Frogspawn I got from the LFS. It's still getting used to the current in the spot it was at, but was open 4-6 inches there and the price was only 140. My torch seems very happy so I figured the Frogspawn will be in slightly less flow. My birds nest lost a bit of polyp coloration, but appears to be growing and branching along with the montipora digitata. I plan on keeping them on the rack for a bit more (they've been there over 2 weeks) and then bumping them up another few inches.