Waterbox 50 AIO in PHX

stnc · Sep 2, 2021

Hey all,

I posted this in the main build, but I figured I'd get the coverage here in case there are some more AIO-specific threads here.

I keep track of EVERYTHING in this google sheet, it's updated multiple times a day. Even if there isn't any activity, I just change the format.

Also, I'm new to this, and I'm sharing everything I'm going through for feedback and for others. If I'm doing something wrong, tell me. No assumptions with me. I love this hobby because it lets me ask questions that are seemingly simple, and it's nice to learn something, so no feelings hurt here.

The Build-up to now (9/2/2021):

Waterbox 50 AIO Peninsula
2X AI Nero 3's (Replacing
AI Hydra 32
Sicce Syncra Silent 2.0
Vivid Creations Random Flow Nozzle
Tunze 9004
AquaTop UV (Just the bulb)
Red Sea Reefdose 4
XP ATO
Advanced Acrylics ATO Tank
American Marine pH Monitor
AQQA Aquarium Heater
iLonda Automatic Fish Feeder
ANHAORUI 12 Outlet (6 Smart) / 4 USB Power Strip
RKIN RODI Machine
Interior Management - IKEA Skadis
- 1X SKADIS Pegboard 30x22" (Back Wall)
- 4X SKADIS Pegboard 14 1/4" x 22" (Both Doors, Cabinet Ceiling, Closed Cabinet Side)
- 4X SKADIS Container (For Dosing Containers)
- 3X SKADIS Container with lid (For Other Storage)
- 2X SKADIS Elastic Cord (For Other Storage)
- 4X SKADIS Shelf (For Food, Supplements, etc)
- SKADIS Tool Holder (For Coral Scissors)
  - Similar Etsy 3D Printed SKADIS Hooks (For Various Tools)
- Many SKADIS Hooks (For Various Tools)
- 2X inTank Filter Floss Holders (For Various Tools)
Accessory Cart - IKEA RASKOG - For Acclimation/Testing/Water Change/General Storage
- 3X IKEA ORDNING (Taller 7 1/8") - I put the fish bags in here for acclimation
- 3X IKEA ORDNING (Shorter 5 3/8") - I put the fish bags in here for acclimation
- 5X IKEA SUNNERSTA Hooks
- 2X IKEA SUNNERSTA Containers
- 1X IKEA PLUGGHAST Folder Pocket (For Documentation)
- IKEA Baking Pan (I put this under the ORDNING's in case there's overflow with the drip)
- Hanna testers
  - Nitrate HR 782
  - Nitrate LR 781
  - Alkalinity 772
  - Phosphate LR 713
  - Calcium 758
  - Salinity
  - TDS
- Red Sea Iodine Tester
- NYOS Magnesium Tester
- Long Orange Gloves for Anemones
- 2X IKEA SKADIS Clip (To Hold Gloves)
- 6X AccuDrip Acclimation Kits
- Pistol Pump Water Change Kit
inTank Filter Basket
- Filter Floss
- Purigen
- Pure Blue
- Waterbox Bio Balls & Charcoal
- Egggcrates
Food/Hospital Tank (Food is starfish)
- Aqeuon 5.5 Gallon
- Tetra Lighted Lid
- Tetra HT Heater (Auto to 78°)
- Fluval Nano Filter
- Backups:
  - Mini USB Pump
  - 4" Airstone

Planned:

Sicce SDC 3.0 (Ordered)
ReefWave 25 (Considering it)

The Current Setup:

The good stuff:

Under the tank:

Tank Chambers:

Utility Cart:

SaltyT · Sep 2, 2021

Nice tank! Love the flame scallop! Your well organized cabinet makes mine look like a chaotic mess lol

j_wilson_reef · Sep 3, 2021

Nicely done! will be following along. In the process of building a Waterbox 50.3 AIO.
What are you replacing the Nero's with?

stnc · Sep 3, 2021

SaltyT said:
Nice tank! Love the flame scallop! Your well organized cabinet makes mine look like a chaotic mess lol

Thanks! Trust me the organization only came together because I was motivated to finish this haha.

j_wilson said:
Nicely done! will be following along. In the process of building a Waterbox 50.3 AIO.
What are you replacing the Nero's with?

Thank you! I think a ReefWave 25 - what are you looking at?

Dunc · Sep 3, 2021

stnc said:
Hey all,

I posted this in the main build, but I figured I'd get the coverage here in case there are some more AIO-specific threads here.

I keep track of EVERYTHING in this google sheet, it's updated multiple times a day. Even if there isn't any activity, I just change the format.

Also, I'm new to this, and I'm sharing everything I'm going through for feedback and for others. If I'm doing something wrong, tell me. No assumptions with me. I love this hobby because it lets me ask questions that are seemingly simple, and it's nice to learn something, so no feelings hurt here.

The Build-up to now (9/2/2021):

Waterbox 50 AIO Peninsula

2X AI Nero 3's (Replacing

AI Hydra 32

Sicce Syncra Silent 2.0

Vivid Creations Random Flow Nozzle

Tunze 9004

AquaTop UV (Just the bulb)

Red Sea Reefdose 4

XP ATO

Advanced Acrylics ATO Tank

American Marine pH Monitor

AQQA Aquarium Heater

iLonda Automatic Fish Feeder

ANHAORUI 12 Outlet (6 Smart) / 4 USB Power Strip

RKIN RODI Machine

Interior Management - IKEA Skadis

1X SKADIS Pegboard 30x22" (Back Wall)

4X SKADIS Pegboard 14 1/4" x 22" (Both Doors, Cabinet Ceiling, Closed Cabinet Side)

4X SKADIS Container (For Dosing Containers)

3X SKADIS Container with lid (For Other Storage)

2X SKADIS Elastic Cord (For Other Storage)

4X SKADIS Shelf (For Food, Supplements, etc)

SKADIS Tool Holder (For Coral Scissors)

Similar Etsy 3D Printed SKADIS Hooks (For Various Tools)

Many SKADIS Hooks (For Various Tools)

2X inTank Filter Floss Holders (For Various Tools)

Accessory Cart - IKEA RASKOG - For Acclimation/Testing/Water Change/General Storage

3X IKEA ORDNING (Taller 7 1/8") - I put the fish bags in here for acclimation

3X IKEA ORDNING (Shorter 5 3/8") - I put the fish bags in here for acclimation

5X IKEA SUNNERSTA Hooks

2X IKEA SUNNERSTA Containers

1X IKEA PLUGGHAST Folder Pocket (For Documentation)

IKEA Baking Pan (I put this under the ORDNING's in case there's overflow with the drip)

Hanna testers

Nitrate HR 782

Nitrate LR 781

Alkalinity 772

Phosphate LR 713

Calcium 758

Salinity

TDS

Red Sea Iodine Tester

NYOS Magnesium Tester

Long Orange Gloves for Anemones

2X IKEA SKADIS Clip (To Hold Gloves)

6X AccuDrip Acclimation Kits

Pistol Pump Water Change Kit

inTank Filter Basket

Filter Floss

Purigen

Pure Blue

Waterbox Bio Balls & Charcoal

Egggcrates

Food/Hospital Tank (Food is starfish)

Aqeuon 5.5 Gallon

Tetra Lighted Lid

Tetra HT Heater (Auto to 78°)

Fluval Nano Filter

Backups:

Mini USB Pump

4" Airstone

Planned:

Sicce SDC 3.0 (Ordered)

ReefWave 25 (Considering it)

The Current Setup:

The good stuff:

Under the tank:

Tank Chambers:

Utility Cart:

Very clean looking with a lot of thought put into it. I love seeing people’s creativity. Thank you for sharing, it looks awesome!

stnc · Sep 3, 2021

Dunc said:
Very clean looking with a lot of thought put into it. I love seeing people’s creativity. Thank you for sharing, it looks awesome!

Thanks!

PokeFish · Sep 3, 2021

stnc said:
Hey all,

I posted this in the main build, but I figured I'd get the coverage here in case there are some more AIO-specific threads here.

I keep track of EVERYTHING in this google sheet, it's updated multiple times a day. Even if there isn't any activity, I just change the format.

Also, I'm new to this, and I'm sharing everything I'm going through for feedback and for others. If I'm doing something wrong, tell me. No assumptions with me. I love this hobby because it lets me ask questions that are seemingly simple, and it's nice to learn something, so no feelings hurt here.

The Build-up to now (9/2/2021):

Waterbox 50 AIO Peninsula

2X AI Nero 3's (Replacing

AI Hydra 32

Sicce Syncra Silent 2.0

Vivid Creations Random Flow Nozzle

Tunze 9004

AquaTop UV (Just the bulb)

Red Sea Reefdose 4

XP ATO

Advanced Acrylics ATO Tank

American Marine pH Monitor

AQQA Aquarium Heater

iLonda Automatic Fish Feeder

ANHAORUI 12 Outlet (6 Smart) / 4 USB Power Strip

RKIN RODI Machine

Interior Management - IKEA Skadis

1X SKADIS Pegboard 30x22" (Back Wall)

4X SKADIS Pegboard 14 1/4" x 22" (Both Doors, Cabinet Ceiling, Closed Cabinet Side)

4X SKADIS Container (For Dosing Containers)

3X SKADIS Container with lid (For Other Storage)

2X SKADIS Elastic Cord (For Other Storage)

4X SKADIS Shelf (For Food, Supplements, etc)

SKADIS Tool Holder (For Coral Scissors)

Similar Etsy 3D Printed SKADIS Hooks (For Various Tools)

Many SKADIS Hooks (For Various Tools)

2X inTank Filter Floss Holders (For Various Tools)

Accessory Cart - IKEA RASKOG - For Acclimation/Testing/Water Change/General Storage

3X IKEA ORDNING (Taller 7 1/8") - I put the fish bags in here for acclimation

3X IKEA ORDNING (Shorter 5 3/8") - I put the fish bags in here for acclimation

5X IKEA SUNNERSTA Hooks

2X IKEA SUNNERSTA Containers

1X IKEA PLUGGHAST Folder Pocket (For Documentation)

IKEA Baking Pan (I put this under the ORDNING's in case there's overflow with the drip)

Hanna testers

Nitrate HR 782

Nitrate LR 781

Alkalinity 772

Phosphate LR 713

Calcium 758

Salinity

TDS

Red Sea Iodine Tester

NYOS Magnesium Tester

Long Orange Gloves for Anemones

2X IKEA SKADIS Clip (To Hold Gloves)

6X AccuDrip Acclimation Kits

Pistol Pump Water Change Kit

inTank Filter Basket

Filter Floss

Purigen

Pure Blue

Waterbox Bio Balls & Charcoal

Egggcrates

Food/Hospital Tank (Food is starfish)

Aqeuon 5.5 Gallon

Tetra Lighted Lid

Tetra HT Heater (Auto to 78°)

Fluval Nano Filter

Backups:

Mini USB Pump

4" Airstone

Planned:

Sicce SDC 3.0 (Ordered)

ReefWave 25 (Considering it)

The Current Setup:

The good stuff:

Under the tank:

Tank Chambers:

Utility Cart:

looks great! The flame scallop is interesting how has it been for u?

TheWB · Sep 4, 2021

stnc said:
Hey all,

I posted this in the main build, but I figured I'd get the coverage here in case there are some more AIO-specific threads here.

I keep track of EVERYTHING in this google sheet, it's updated multiple times a day. Even if there isn't any activity, I just change the format.

Also, I'm new to this, and I'm sharing everything I'm going through for feedback and for others. If I'm doing something wrong, tell me. No assumptions with me. I love this hobby because it lets me ask questions that are seemingly simple, and it's nice to learn something, so no feelings hurt here.

The Build-up to now (9/2/2021):

Waterbox 50 AIO Peninsula

2X AI Nero 3's (Replacing

AI Hydra 32

Sicce Syncra Silent 2.0

Vivid Creations Random Flow Nozzle

Tunze 9004

AquaTop UV (Just the bulb)

Red Sea Reefdose 4

XP ATO

Advanced Acrylics ATO Tank

American Marine pH Monitor

AQQA Aquarium Heater

iLonda Automatic Fish Feeder

ANHAORUI 12 Outlet (6 Smart) / 4 USB Power Strip

RKIN RODI Machine

Interior Management - IKEA Skadis

1X SKADIS Pegboard 30x22" (Back Wall)

4X SKADIS Pegboard 14 1/4" x 22" (Both Doors, Cabinet Ceiling, Closed Cabinet Side)

4X SKADIS Container (For Dosing Containers)

3X SKADIS Container with lid (For Other Storage)

2X SKADIS Elastic Cord (For Other Storage)

4X SKADIS Shelf (For Food, Supplements, etc)

SKADIS Tool Holder (For Coral Scissors)

Similar Etsy 3D Printed SKADIS Hooks (For Various Tools)

Many SKADIS Hooks (For Various Tools)

2X inTank Filter Floss Holders (For Various Tools)

Accessory Cart - IKEA RASKOG - For Acclimation/Testing/Water Change/General Storage

3X IKEA ORDNING (Taller 7 1/8") - I put the fish bags in here for acclimation

3X IKEA ORDNING (Shorter 5 3/8") - I put the fish bags in here for acclimation

5X IKEA SUNNERSTA Hooks

2X IKEA SUNNERSTA Containers

1X IKEA PLUGGHAST Folder Pocket (For Documentation)

IKEA Baking Pan (I put this under the ORDNING's in case there's overflow with the drip)

Hanna testers

Nitrate HR 782

Nitrate LR 781

Alkalinity 772

Phosphate LR 713

Calcium 758

Salinity

TDS

Red Sea Iodine Tester

NYOS Magnesium Tester

Long Orange Gloves for Anemones

2X IKEA SKADIS Clip (To Hold Gloves)

6X AccuDrip Acclimation Kits

Pistol Pump Water Change Kit

inTank Filter Basket

Filter Floss

Purigen

Pure Blue

Waterbox Bio Balls & Charcoal

Egggcrates

Food/Hospital Tank (Food is starfish)

Aqeuon 5.5 Gallon

Tetra Lighted Lid

Tetra HT Heater (Auto to 78°)

Fluval Nano Filter

Backups:

Mini USB Pump

4" Airstone

Planned:

Sicce SDC 3.0 (Ordered)

ReefWave 25 (Considering it)

The Current Setup:

The good stuff:

Under the tank:

Tank Chambers:

Utility Cart:

Love the organization inside the cabinet, wish mine was this nicely setup. You also have a lot of really nice gear.
I was browsing through your spreadsheet and it looks like currently you have 19 fish, 2 clams, 2 anemones that can attain a very large size (one as much as 3 ft wide and the other which is very aggressive) and one AI 32 to provide the lighting all in a 50 gallon tank. So my question is, when is the tank and lighting upgrade happening

stnc · Sep 4, 2021

PokeFish said:
looks great! The flame scallop is interesting how has it been for u?

So to be honest I should've done my research, as apparently, they're incredibly difficult to keep in captivity (though this is disputed of course), and I've already lost one, so I feel pretty bad about that. The one that's still in the tank is doing fine, at least from what I can tell - so hopefully, I'll buck the trend there.

TheWB said:
Love the organization inside the cabinet, wish mine was this nicely setup. You also have a lot of really nice gear.
I was browsing through your spreadsheet and it looks like currently you have 19 fish, 2 clams, 2 anemones that can attain a very large size (one as much as 3 ft wide and the other which is very aggressive) and one AI 32 to provide the lighting all in a 50 gallon tank. So my question is, when is the tank and lighting upgrade happening

Thanks! So I'm definitely tapped out on fish - and I may rehome the remaining damsels (3x yellowtail and 2x springer) leaving me with the Chromis, Mandarins, Cardinalfish, Clowns, and of course Paul, my cowfish. That lowers food competition and crowding, as the remaining bunch keep to fairly distinct groups.

With the anemones, upgrading is on the horizon for sure - as they grow in the tank I'll pull back on the live rock to make more room, and then the plan is to bring on a Reefer 650 in a year once I move into a house and move the bigger Gigantea into there and leave the clam as a focal in the 50G. As far as lighting, would you recommend two AI 32's? Trying to learn and understand that still.

PokeFish · Sep 4, 2021

stnc said:
So to be honest I should've done my research, as apparently, they're incredibly difficult to keep in captivity (though this is disputed of course), and I've already lost one, so I feel pretty bad about that. The one that's still in the tank is doing fine, at least from what I can tell - so hopefully, I'll buck the trend there.

Thanks! So I'm definitely tapped out on fish - and I may rehome the remaining damsels (3x yellowtail and 2x springer) leaving me with the Chromis, Mandarins, Cardinalfish, Clowns, and of course Paul, my cowfish. That lowers food competition and crowding, as the remaining bunch keep to fairly distinct groups.

With the anemones, upgrading is on the horizon for sure - as they grow in the tank I'll pull back on the live rock to make more room, and then the plan is to bring on a Reefer 650 in a year once I move into a house and move the bigger Gigantea into there and leave the clam as a focal in the 50G. As far as lighting, would you recommend two AI 32's? Trying to learn and understand that still.

good luck with it

TheWB · Sep 4, 2021

stnc said:
So to be honest I should've done my research, as apparently, they're incredibly difficult to keep in captivity (though this is disputed of course), and I've already lost one, so I feel pretty bad about that. The one that's still in the tank is doing fine, at least from what I can tell - so hopefully, I'll buck the trend there.

Thanks! So I'm definitely tapped out on fish - and I may rehome the remaining damsels (3x yellowtail and 2x springer) leaving me with the Chromis, Mandarins, Cardinalfish, Clowns, and of course Paul, my cowfish. That lowers food competition and crowding, as the remaining bunch keep to fairly distinct groups.

With the anemones, upgrading is on the horizon for sure - as they grow in the tank I'll pull back on the live rock to make more room, and then the plan is to bring on a Reefer 650 in a year once I move into a house and move the bigger Gigantea into there and leave the clam as a focal in the 50G. As far as lighting, would you recommend two AI 32's? Trying to learn and understand that still.

I’ve never kept clams myself but based on the info on liveaquaria.com they need a low nutrient environment with high lighting. One HD32 is more than likely not nearly enough. That’s probably part of the reason why the first 4 you had didn’t make it. Also cutting back on the live rock as the anemones grow isn’t a good idea as that will reduce the filtration capabilities of your tank. You’ve gone through quite a bit of livestock in the last two months. I am not an expert and I’m not telling you what to do, it’s your tank, but if it was me and I had lost that many inhabitants in that short amount of time I would scale back, do a lot more research, and try to make a plan going forward to keep the inhabitants of your tank alive long term. The clams and nems that need higher levels of light, husbandry and more room can come later in the Reefer 650 once you’ve got the basics nailed down more. I think you have done a great job of accumulating equipment and getting this tank set up with good quality equipment, but I also think you’ve added too much too quickly and as the old adage goes, Nothing good happens fast in this hobby. You will not find me handing out tons of advice on this forum, I’ve been doing this a while but by no means consider myself to be an expert. I will just say that slowing down and letting your tank mature and stabilize will be to your benefit down the road and will keep you in the hobby long term and save you money in the process, clams are not inexpensive. Hope you take this in the spirit it was intended and I hope your tank thrives for a really long time.

diabolical_clownfish · Oct 10, 2021

Looks great! I also have the Waterbox cabinet (35 gallon). How do you mount your IKEA Skadis board to the cabinet?

stnc · Oct 10, 2021

TheWB said:
I’ve never kept clams myself but based on the info on liveaquaria.com they need a low nutrient environment with high lighting. One HD32 is more than likely not nearly enough. That’s probably part of the reason why the first 4 you had didn’t make it. Also cutting back on the live rock as the anemones grow isn’t a good idea as that will reduce the filtration capabilities of your tank. You’ve gone through quite a bit of livestock in the last two months. I am not an expert and I’m not telling you what to do, it’s your tank, but if it was me and I had lost that many inhabitants in that short amount of time I would scale back, do a lot more research, and try to make a plan going forward to keep the inhabitants of your tank alive long term. The clams and nems that need higher levels of light, husbandry and more room can come later in the Reefer 650 once you’ve got the basics nailed down more. I think you have done a great job of accumulating equipment and getting this tank set up with good quality equipment, but I also think you’ve added too much too quickly and as the old adage goes, Nothing good happens fast in this hobby. You will not find me handing out tons of advice on this forum, I’ve been doing this a while but by no means consider myself to be an expert. I will just say that slowing down and letting your tank mature and stabilize will be to your benefit down the road and will keep you in the hobby long term and save you money in the process, clams are not inexpensive. Hope you take this in the spirit it was intended and I hope your tank thrives for a really long time.

You are definitely correct, and I have definitely scaled back. I 100% appreciate it, and I am so sorry for the delay in responding, I saw the comment and agreed, but then I forgot to respond online haha. Everything was going "well," until I had an anemone die which killed off some coral I really liked. While the fish were ok, I ended up rehoming quite a few fish because I realized exactly that point, that it was too much going on. I've also rearranged some rocks (pics to come later today) to focus on giving more lighting, but since that, things have been much better. The good news is that parameters continue to improve in that they are stable, and I continue to pick up things you get with aging if you will. Like I said at the start, I appreciate all feedback and suggestions, I'm still new here, and this was exactly the feedback I needed, so thank you!

diabolical_clownfish said:
Looks great! I also have the Waterbox cabinet (35 gallon). How do you mount your IKEA Skadis board to the cabinet?

I drilled em

The only one that was different was the one hanging from the ceiling. I ended up buying two Skadis of the same size, and used both of the metal racks you drill (since each Skadis only comes with one). Otherwise, they have one metal rack you drill, and two bumper feet you attach to the lower side.