Whats up with these nobodies who want to rip off everyone?

[Gatorpa]

Alright alright folks; let's all calm down and have a group hug.

I don’t see anyone getting upset or nasty.

 

[Gatorpa]

That's just untrue. There's a reason when you buy a Named coral from WWC, You'll likely never see it again. Every one of these houses obviously have their own signature aquaculture lines, but the bulk of what is being sold from shops and major coral resellers alike are wild collected.

Hobby to hobby sales are different and don't constitute a bulk of sales.

Interesting, I’ve asked my LFS (3 of them) if they ever get wild caught colonies anymore. they don’t want to mess with them and would rather buy ORA stuff.

Love to get some old school WC…

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

I don’t see anyone getting upset or nasty.

That changes very quickly. Not sure if it's covered in TOS but best practice is staying clear of region and politics.

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

Interesting, I’ve asked my LFS (3 of them) if they ever get wild caught colonies anymore. they don’t want to mess with them and would rather buy ORA stuff.

Love to get some old school WC…

Who are they buying from? And where are you located?

I'm in the LA area. There are a Dozen importers here. Half a dozen big name sponsors here.

They are all slangin imported coral after cutting and hardening off a bit and of Course, giving it a Name.

 

[Gatorpa]

Who are they buying from? And where are you located?

I'm in the LA area. There are a Dozen importers here. Half a dozen big name sponsors here.

They are all slangin imported coral after cutting and hardening off a bit and of Course, giving it a Name.

I’m in the Daytona Beach area, once in a blue moon one shop will get wild caught, but they seem to come in looking like crap always..

WWC in orlando is about an hour away, I did snag some great frags from their Satellite store back in March that were real nice.

To me the names are just a marketing thing. I mean seriously how can you tell what line a coral came from unless you do some sort of genetic testing. Many look very similar and will have subtle changes from tank to tank.

All the names just kill me….

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

I’m in the Daytona Beach area, once in a blue moon one shop will get wild caught, but they seem to come in looking like crap always..

WWC in orlando is about an hour away, I did snag some great frags from their Satellite store back in March that were real nice.

To me the names are just a marketing thing. I mean seriously how can you tell what line a coral came from unless you do some sort of genetic testing. Many look very similar and will have subtle changes from tank to tank.

All the names just kill me….

That's crazy to me that you never see WC. I would be interested to hear who your shops buy from.

The names are Just names, put on usually cherry picked wild collected corals

 

[Gatorpa]

That's crazy to me that you never see WC. I would be interested to hear who your shops buy from.

The names are Just names, put on usually cherry picked wild collected corals

I’ll ask next time I’m in them.
The drive to winter park where the WWC satellite store was well worth it. Lots of very nice stuff, I would have really went nuts but the tank was an upgrade from a tank that had run for years and I wanted to make sure everything went well first..

 

[BirdFish5000]

I don’t see anyone getting upset or nasty.

Who said anything about upset or nasty? Sometimes a group hug is just needed.

 

[Lost in the Sauce]

I’ll ask next time I’m in them.
The drive to winter park where the WWC satellite store was well worth it. Lots of very nice stuff, I would have really went nuts but the tank was an upgrade from a tank that had run for years and I wanted to make sure everything went well first..

To be clear, I have nothing against WWC. I have a few WWC pieces that are Great. They all have names, and were sold until the colonies were gone, then Poof, another very similar one, with a different name appear.

 

[Gatorpa]

To be clear, I have nothing against WWC. I have a few WWC pieces that are Great. They all have names, and were sold until the colonies were gone, then Poof, another very similar one, with a different name appear.

Agree and understand.

Whats in a name….

 

[KrisReef]

That changes very quickly. Not sure if it's covered in TOS but best practice is staying clear of region and politics.

Amen!

 

[CoralB]

For you coral prices are unethically high, maybe for them what you are doing is priced unethically high.

I think we can all agree that many things which are much more important than corals are priced unethically high, like houses for example.

My main problem is not with selling @high prices, but if it's a business it should be taxed as other businesses.

Have you been to the grocery store lately ??? Gas station ???

 

[DJF]

I'm curious - why would anyone want 'this specific torch'. With lighting changes - I can make any torch look like one.

Supposing you could- what would you sell it for? I don’t have an ASD hg torch in my tank but I will say (or “Will say”… ASD joke for ya) that when i went to a local shop and looked at all sorts of high end torches side by side (Kung Fu Corals)- the ASD HG stood out… this was with Danny’s holy grails, bananas, tigers etc. side by side. note: I’m not a fan of ASD for personal reasons but stating facts- this “named” torch stood out in this independent shop side by side with other holy grail torches right next to it. In my tank I have different variants, all sitting on my sand bed getting the same par. Have their colors morphed? Sure, some but I can still tell them apart. I agree that the name game is silly and torches have recently been overpriced but seeing the market- $750 for an ASD HG torch is a steal. Why? Because someone would pay $1300 for that same head. And- based on what I’ve seen with my own eyes it truly stands apart. Would I pay $1300? No- but as long as someone will anything less is a bargain.

Ps- that ASD torch head was sold when I saw it.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

With regards to the wild collected corals, I don't think many shops would reject them just because they're wild collected and I doubt many people would reject that one coral they really like just because it was wild collected although many would claim differently on a public forum. Shops also want to appear as sustainable as possible so I doubt all of them would be up front about having wild corals.

 

[RedReefer]

Well, gas used to be a $1 gallon now it is $4 . I will stop there. Yt $50 now $300. Thank you covid!

Yellow Tangs $500, that’s BS!

 

[Gatorpa]

Yellow Tangs $500, that’s BS!

A $20 fish….
but that pre Hawaii closure…

 

[BroccoliFarmer]

Well, gas used to be a $1 gallon now it is $4 . I will stop there. Yt $50 now $300. Thank you covid!

Yt is not covid. It is harvesting restrictions in Hawaii. Just coincidental timing.

 

[livinlifeinBKK]

Yt is not covid. It is harvesting restrictions in Hawaii. Just coincidental timing.

I was gonna say the same thing

 

[BroccoliFarmer]

Amen!

Not sure if this was satire or irony. Using a religious expression to praise staying away from religion? Funny as hades

 

[adsf430]

The only topic this thread hasn’t broached is religion

I’ll take a wack at that, UFOs are a new religion forming people don’t realize. We have witnesses to UFOs (i.e. angels) that are the Navy Pilots. We have the government (i.e. the church) saying there’s evidence of the higher beings. And there’s people who meditate to try to contact them (i.e. praying). And then of course the multitude of scams and different interpretations of historical events that come with any religion.