“Immoral & impractical”
What’s your take on Oodinium? No drug resistance going on there? Read the homepage, everyday people are posting about fish deaths.In my post I meant to say 'in my opinion', and it is just my opinon.. I never said I had 'no issues taking living animals, fish, etc, from their natural habitats, etc", let alone "subjecting them to all kinds of torture, disease and death?"
I do not have a problem using praziquantel or copper since if correctly used there is no risk. I would not personally use cipro. The reason I don't have a problem with treating disease in fish is obvious.
There is a possibility of resistance forming in fungi to an anti fungal (fluconazole)) which is used to treat human disease. For that reason I would not use it.
I said copper to treat a fish disease is fine. As far as I know, they don't use copper to treat human disease? So I don't get your point
my point is that I could not control the algae “practically and morally”. How would you suggest the algae be successfully eradicated that fish or cleanup crew did not consume.In my post I meant to say 'in my opinion', and it is just my opinon
I do not have a problem using praziquantel or copper since if correctly used there is no risk. I would not personally use cipro. The reason I don't have a problem with treating disease in fish is obvious.
There is a possibility of resistance forming in fungi to an anti fungal (fluconazole)) which is used to treat human disease. For that reason I would not use it.
Is your sea hare eating it? If it is this I believe it is Chlorodemsis. Fox face , scopas, tuxedo and variegated urchins don’t eat it. Hermits and turbo snails may but would count on it. Cropped short to the rock it may get grazed but not sure. Manual removal near impossible to get it all. Flucanazole didn’t dent it, grew faster from nutrients of other algae die off.
Peroxide 3% injected into the algae in tank with flow off, didn’t kill it. Lanthanum chloride injection didn’t kill it.
I had broken down the tank to start over. Had invasive encrusting sponge, aptasia and other crud on rock. Removed rock and set in bleach bath waiting to hit it with acid. I stumbled upon some dry rock for a good price and took the easy route. Guy said it was covered in algae so he bleached it. Rock looked pretty clean enough to use. In the meantime from stirring the sand bed, cleaning out the over flows, dosing lanthanum etc etc.. The tank ended up with Dino’s. So dosing nitrate , silica, no water changes, no skimmer, you get the idea. There was some bryopsis in there as well and figured Flucanazole would clean it up.
So in a bleach solution, the tuffs of the algae turn white and slimy on the top. While underneath stays green. Clean off the slime to expose the green. The same, turns white and slimes up covering itself. Four days in bleach, acid wash, back in bleach, still green. Peroxide 3% sprayed on then into peroxide wash and scrubbed. If this crap comes back after that I am gonna find a new hobby lol.
There was some rock I left in the tank as well as frags that had the crud growing in it. Removal from water and straight 3% peroxide on the spots took care of it. They’re still some growing on overflows and glass that needs manual removal as nothing is eating it. This week hope to get rock back in tank. Will run Flucanazole after reset for safe measures.
If it was me knowing what I know now and it’s not that bad, I would remove the rocks and treat them with peroxide
Hope this helps and someone can chime in with a better alternative.
I have read probably all of the peroxide threads - I have no objection to taking rocks out and cleaning them.
My philosophy - if you have bare area with light on it, something is going to grow. I tended to buy larger corals - that rapidly covered any open rock to avoid algae. Those pieces now have become prohibitively expensive (Unfortunately). You have a nice tank and nice fish. I would consider moving all of your frags (unless they are brand new - off the sand and onto the rockBleach, acid, H2O2.
Now all I gotta do is dose some red slime remover to get rid of the little bit of cyano on the glass. J/K
. Thanks for the interesting discussion
I am trying something new to me. I have been dosing silicate prior to the tear down due to Dino’s. Hoping maybe a film of diatoms on the rock will be beneficial, plus I have enough coralline already to seed the rock.My philosophy - if you have bare area with light on it, something is going to grow. I tended to buy larger corals - that rapidly covered any open rock to avoid algae. Those pieces now have become prohibitively expensive (Unfortunately). You have a nice tank and nice fish. I would consider moving all of your frags (unless they are brand new - off the sand and onto the rock
I just use the sea hare for algae control
Can you easily remove rocks without upsetting the whole tank? Spot treatment with peroxide will help knock the crud down and hopefully the fluconazole will knock out the rest. Be careful with peroxide on coral as it can cause damage/death to some
I had similar luck with a sea hare twice. Do you have a picture of the tank under whites so we can see exactly what your dealing with?
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Correct!! Even when I was buying colonies - I usually bought several at a time - so I could get a discount, but it was in the hundreds of dollars (the cost of the coral)
I really don’t want to tear my tank apart if at all possible. Some of the corals have encrusted so that wouldn’t be ideal
