HELP! Cyano won't go away!!!

[Empress]

Here is the image that Twillard confirmed for me. Look for the spirals.

This image with the spirals; is that cyano?

 

[Lowefx]

Yep what?

I think he ment "yep" as far as hydrogen peroxide.

 

[Empress]

I think he ment "yep" as far as hydrogen peroxide.

Yeah but is it H202 or H020? That is the million dollar question. [emoji385]

 

[thabizness]

That was spirulina. Look for the spiral chains. H2O2 does nothing to it along with the other popular fixes.

 

[thabizness]

It looks just like cyano. You can only tell the difference at the microscopic level.

 

[Rick.45cal]

Do the hydrogen peroxide test to see if it's cyano or spirulina! Without knowing that you won't be able to fix it! There is also a pretty good posibility that you have both! (That's what I had). When you have both, it can be challenging.

Ok before you go squirting Vibrant in your zeovit tank, be aware. At least in my tank the vibrant made nutrient management with zeobak VERY difficult. I had to switch over to using MicroBacter7, I figured while I was at it I would swap carbon sources over to NOPOx to try and trade up the food source that the cyano/spirulina was using as fuel. (It's what they specialize in, fixing carbon sources in nutrient poor environments). I can only make guesses as to why I had to change bacteria sources, I think zeobak may be closely related to chrysophite/cyano/spirulina and the Vibrant wiped it out. It nearly eliminate the bacteria mulm when I pumped my reactor. (Just saying).

So be prepared for that if you choose to use Vibrant. Grab some MB7 and NOPOx too. I haven't heard any other people mention noticing this, it may just be a case of what happens in my tank doesn't happen to anyone else.

 

[Rick.45cal]

Yeah but is it H202 or H020? That is the million dollar question. [emoji385]

H2O2

Hydrogen Peroxide. (Per-two). H2O2.

 

[Empress]

H2O2

Hydrogen Peroxide. (Per-two). H2O2.

Ahh I got it now! Hydrogen 2 and Oxygen 2. Now I should be able to remember it. Thanks Rick. [emoji41]

 

[Empress]

Do the hydrogen peroxide test to see if it's cyano or spirulina! Without knowing that you won't be able to fix it! There is also a pretty good posibility that you have both! (That's what I had). When you have both, it can be challenging.

Ok before you go squirting Vibrant in your zeovit tank, be aware. At least in my tank the vibrant made nutrient management with zeobak VERY difficult. I had to switch over to using MicroBacter7, I figured while I was at it I would swap carbon sources over to NOPOx to try and trade up the food source that the cyano/spirulina was using as fuel. (It's what they specialize in, fixing carbon sources in nutrient poor environments). I can only make guesses as to why I had to change bacteria sources, I think zeobak may be closely related to chrysophite/cyano/spirulina and the Vibrant wiped it out. It nearly eliminate the bacteria mulm when I pumped my reactor. (Just saying).

So be prepared for that if you choose to use Vibrant. Grab some MB7 and NOPOx too. I haven't heard any other people mention noticing this, it may just be a case of what happens in my tank doesn't happen to anyone else.

But doing a water test ain't nowheres as fun as doing it on a microscope. I want to see the pest in action! LOL

 

[Empress]

Easy test is to get some so called cyano out your tank and put it in a clear cup.
Add 3ml of Ho2o to that and swirl for a few seconds
Let it stand overnight, if color change on the red stuff we talking cyano if not its spirulina.

Don't I need to put some tank water in the cup too? Or just the slime and H2O2?

 

[Empress]

Oh and how much slime do I need? I'm going to try this tonight and see what happens.

 

[Empress]

And if it stays red then it's cyano.

 

[Rick.45cal]

But doing a water test ain't nowheres as fun as doing it on a microscope. I want to see the pest in action! LOL

I'm scopeless! I'm in the process of changing that though

 

[thabizness]

adding a microscope really makes the hobby more enjoyable but you start to feel wierd about sticking your arm in the tank after seeing some things.

 

[Empress]

adding a microscope really makes the hobby more enjoyable but you start to feel wierd about sticking your arm in the tank after seeing some things.

LOL!! My husband is so scared after he saw me siphon out a tapeworm he won't even feed my fish anymore! He's such a wimp.

And yah, don't put your fingers in your mouth! It's amazing we're not all sick and dying! We all gotta be INSANE. Ya gotta LOVE it! I know I do. [emoji886]

 

[Diesel]

Don't I need to put some tank water in the cup too? Or just the slime and H2O2?

http://www.reefnation.com/understanding-cyanobacteria/

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/positive-identification-of-cyanobacteria.253287/

 

[Lowefx]

It's about 3oz but the cyano in question, rose to the top. I'm waiting for color change. I added 3ml of housegrade hydrogen peroxide

 

[Empress]

It's about 3oz but the cyano in question, rose to the top. I'm waiting for color change. I added 3ml of housegrade hydrogen peroxide

So how long do you gotta wait? What if it doesn't change color?

 

[Lowefx]

They said 24 hours I believe.

 

[jsker]

I tried Vibrant and H2O2 and they both had little effect. After a month and a half I nuked the tank and the problem was gone 3 days. I used one treatment. I did a water change 7 days after the first treatment. What the cyano treatment do is starve out the bacteria with a bacteria. Yours is light compared to mine and I would suggest doing a water change 72 hours after you start