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00W's AIO Smorgasbord

Aquarium Profile and Equipment

What type of saltwater aquarium is this?
Mixed Reef
Total Water Volume
115
When did you start this tank?
Jun 16, 2015
What is your aquarium made of?
Glass
Aquarium Length (inches)
48
Aquarium Width (inches)
18
Aquarium Height (inches)
24
Aquarium Overflow/Drain
Drain Style (durso, herbie, etc)
Aquarium Sump
YES
Sump Water Volume
20
Aquarium Stand
Wood
Aquarium Controller
NO
Protein Skimmer
NO
Protein Skimmer Make and Model
Lifereef vs3-24
Aquarium Reactors
  1. None
Return Pump
Eheim compaction 3000
What types of equipment are you using for water flow and circulation?
  1. Powerhead
  2. Wavemaker
Water Flow and Circulation Equipment List
Jebao OW 20 x2, OW10, Jebao 1300, 2 sicce small WaveMaker.
Aquarium Lighting
  1. T5 Fluorescent
  2. Natural Sunlight
Lighting Equipment List
Odyssea T5 HO fixture
Lighting PAR and Goals
Low
Dosing Equipment Detail
None
Auto Top Off or ATO
NO
Aquarium Heating and Cooling
  1. I am using a heater or heaters
Water Temperature
77
Heating and Cooling Equipment Detail
Eheim 300w with ink bird controller

Aquarium Water Chemistry and Parameters

pH Level
8.3
Specific Gravity
1.027
Nitrate or NO3
19
Phosphate or PO4
1.12
Calcium
440
Alkalinity
7
Magnesium
1300
Salt Brand
Red sea blue bucket
Trace Element Dosing
Kent essential elements

Aquarium Natural and Mechanical Filtration

Substrate
Bare Bottom (BB)
Substrate Level
No Substrate
Live Rock
75
Live Rock Type
Unknown
Nutrient Export
  1. Protein Skimmer
  2. Filter Sock
Water Changes
YES
Water Change Details
10% every Monday

Aquarium Tank Inhabitants (fish, coral, invert etc.)

Fish List
  1. Angelfish
  2. Clownfish
  3. Surgeonfish Tang
  4. Other Predatory
Total Fish
4
Coral List
  1. Zoanthids
  2. Soft Coral
  3. Mushroom Coral
  4. Other
Total Corals
6
Invert List
  1. Anemone
  2. Snails
  3. None
Total Inverts
0
Livestock Detail
Have a trigger which is not listed.
Livestock Quarantine
  1. No Quarantine

Aquarium Nutrition (fish, coral, invert etc. feeding)

Fish Feeding Frequency
Multiple Daily Feedings
Coral Feeding Frequency
Do Not Feed Coral Directly
Fish and Coral Feeding
  1. Flake
  2. Pellet
  3. Frozen
  4. Algae Strips
  5. Other
Auto Feeder
NO

Additional Aquarium Information

What do you think are the keys to your success in reefing?
Patience
Have you tested the GFCI adapter?

What is the rating on your GFCI and your power hub?

It seems that the power hub is probably rated at 15 amps and the GFCI probably is as well. You have a 20 amp breaker so the only way that I can see that it would blow first, on an isolated circuit, would be a substantial overload that should take out the power hub or GFCI long before the breaker. My guess is a problem with the GFCI itself tripping the breaker.

Hit send to soon... or the breaker itself is failing. I doubt it is the power strip or your equipment.
The gfci would have to half failed to the point where it's actively shorting out to trip the breaker though. Theoretically i suppose it could. But if the circuits only drawing 1100w like Paul stated previously the power hub should be fine to handle it
 
So either your breaker is bad and is nuisance tripping, something is arcing and it's sensing that and tripping, or somethings kicking on and sending it over the rated ampacity of the breaker. If your confident your full load is in the 1100w range we can rule that out and narrow it down to either somethings arcing or the breakers defective.
yeah, that's all thats in this circuit. it's the dining room, outside outlet, and foyer. (I have one of those outlet/circuit detectors) house heat is at 68 stable. tanks at 75. so 700w heater elements really aren't being overworked. I haven't pulled the hub and all the wires to check the rats nest yet. (making sure they are all tightly connected).
 
The same for me lol, we cubans use lemon for both lol, green lemon and yellow lemon ;) :face-with-tears-of-joy:
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Looks like the color of most of my coral :thinking-face:
 
Have you tested the GFCI adapter?

What is the rating on your GFCI and your power hub?

It seems that the power hub is probably rated at 15 amps and the GFCI probably is as well. You have a 20 amp breaker so the only way that I can see that it would blow first, on an isolated circuit, would be a substantial overload that should take out the power hub or GFCI long before the breaker. My guess is a problem with the GFCI itself tripping the breaker.

Hit send to soon... or the breaker itself is failing. I doubt it is the power strip or your equipment.
so the test part of the GFCI shows it's OK. these are the 2 items.

Amazon product ASIN B06XTQ86W3
Amazon product ASIN B09MLGVTSN
 
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from Amazon.

1U PDU Horizontal Rackmount Power Strip - Surge Protector 10 Outlet, 10 Independent LED Switches, 100V-240V/15A 1800 Joules, w/6 ft Cord, for Network Server, ETL Listed, by CENTROPOWER​

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GFCI Adapter 15 Amp 3 Prongs Grounded, Waterproof, GFCI Plug Portable with One Outlet and Male Plug-in Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter to Protect Electric Safety​

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so the test part of the GFCI shows it's OK. these are the 2 items.

Amazon product ASIN B06XTQ86W3
Amazon product ASIN B09MLGVTSN
Can't see the images but if the Test and Reset cycle didn't blow the breaker then the GFCI is probably not the culprit. My thinking was that the self test function of many newer GFCIs is automatic and could be arcing. Guess not. To me that suggests an arc rather than an overload or ground fault. Or again, a failing breaker.

Hopefully, the switches in the power hub would only arc when you are manually turning on or off a circuit, hopefully neither but switches are a likely suspect for arcs.

The heater controllers would be the most likely gear on the tank to arc.
 
Can't see the images but if the Test and Reset cycle didn't blow the breaker then the GFCI is probably not the culprit. My thinking was that the self test function of many newer GFCIs is automatic and could be arcing. Guess not. To me that suggests an arc rather than an overload or ground fault. Or again, a failing breaker.

Hopefully, the switches in the power hub would only arc when you are manually turning on or off a circuit, hopefully neither but switches are a likely suspect for arcs.

The heater controllers would be the most likely gear on the tank to arc.
I agree. I think moving the controller to a different circuit is a solid first step. And see which circuit then trips
 
Like that power strip. I've been using DJ America 8 outlet strips of an almost identical design (PC100a) for decades on my tanks and other places that need a bunch of outlets, like when my wife sets up a Christmas village or for my model railroading, etc. I think I have a half dozen of them around the house. Two extra outlets sure would be nice,,,
 
Like that power strip. I've been using DJ America 8 outlet strips of an almost identical design (PC100a) for decades on my tanks and other places that need a bunch of outlets, like when my wife sets up a Christmas village or for my model railroading, etc. I think I have a half dozen of them around the house. Two extra outlets sure would be nice,,,
oh boy. ok here we go. Model trains. :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes:
yup. I'm there. LGB stuff for me. made a few of my own accessories. I'll snap a pic for you.
 
oh boy. ok here we go. Model trains. :beaming-face-with-smiling-eyes:
yup. I'm there. LGB stuff for me. made a few of my own accessories. I'll snap a pic for you.
Very off and on for me but I always end up doing it again. Started in Lionel (who didn't?), went to HO for decades. Sold it all and went to N. Sold it all and went back to HO. Sold it all and bought an On30 for around the tree...

Mainly On30 for the last decade but tore down the layout about three years ago and haven't rebuilt it...yet.

Bought some N last Christmas to do a small switching shelf while I was recovering from some issue that is now a partial 3'x6' 'layout' on the dining room table. At this point it's just foam and Kato track with a few partially assembled buildings in test locations.

Love the LGB stuff.

Here are two of my Tenecor frag racks (see how I kept this on subject) doing temporary duty for some of the On30 buildings.

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Very off and on for me but I always end up doing it again. Started in Lionel (who didn't?), went to HO for decades. Sold it all and went to N. Sold it all and went back to HO. Sold it all and bought an On30 for around the tree...

Mainly On30 for the last decade but tore down the layout about three years ago and haven't rebuilt it...yet.

Bought some N last Christmas to do a small switching shelf while I was recovering from some issue that is now a partial 3'x6' 'layout' on the dining room table. At this point it's just foam and Kato track with a few partially assembled buildings in test locations.

Love the LGB stuff.

Here are two of my Tenecor frag racks doing temporary duty for some of the On30 buildings.

Frag-Racks.jpg

built this while the baby did her 2 hour nap. originally made trestle style brackets and hung the stuff from the ceiling.

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so who's knowledgable with electrics? I have everything except my main pump plugged into this power hub. The power hub is plugged into a GFCI into the outlet and attached to the red circled breaker. the breaker trips everyone in a while. nothing else is on this circuit. is this because it's a ARC and the other is GFCI? (At Least I think that might be Arc) I think one of these is the current issue. I only have about 1100 watts on this circuit when it's all on. That GFCI has never tripped. twice the power hub has tripped and the rest it;s the main breaker. This is my second power hub because the first suddenly no longer worked. so I suspect that's the real issue right now.

Should I just get a regular power strip and plug it into the GFCI instead of the power hub?
I don't have the capability of hooking up a new line.

The mighty jet is plugged into a UPS and is not on the GFCI.

MightyJet - 85W
Sicce 5.0 - 105W
Helio Heaters - 700W
AI Hydra - 90W
2 MP40 (38W) - 76W
ATO Tunze 3155 - wattage?

how should I redo this?


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Been running like this for over a year. Then past week has tripped 4 times. So you’re thinking new breaker?
Paul I'm going to suggest testing the breaker with everything running and see how many amps you are drawing.
I had this happen to me and was going to tell you the whole story but I'll just be to the point.
I don't explain things very well.
I'm also not an electrician.
My neighbor is however.
He does replace breakers but not very often.
With the history of this as you mentioned I'd almost bet something has gone bad and is drawing way more power just at times than it should.
When I was having this same problem we tested the breaker while shutting things off and on.
It turned out my old eheim return was the culprit.
You can use the watt to volt to amps calculator to see if you are close to 20 amps draw but I doubt it.
Power strips, GFCIS, breakers are all meant to trip if there's a load problem with something plugged into it.
You can take an extension cord and plug everything into a different circuit and see if it does it again but since it is random it will probably do it while you are asleep or something lol.
And it will probably happen again.
I'm a apprentice electrician, as most of us reefers are but having someone test this circuit would be my suggestion.
Then you can get to the bottom of things and see what needs to be replaced.
Sorry for the long post.
 
built this while the baby did her 2 hour nap. originally made trestle style brackets and hung the stuff from the ceiling.

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Very nice, love the depot. My wife has suggested something similar with LGB around the ceiling but I figure I've got enough things I'm working on already.
 
I can't drink much anymore. had to stop for a few years. but once in a while just think I'd like to try one of those.
I don't drink anymore but that was my go to.
Told myself if I live to be 80, I'll have a corona on my birthday. :smiling-face:
 

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