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Did you see my post warning you about palythoa? Do NOT climb into the tank and mess around if there is palythoa soft coral in there, they can release palytoxin and that can be a serious problem.OK is it safe to climb inside the tank and clean it with vinegar
Did you see my post warning you about palythoa? Do NOT climb into the tank and mess around if there is palythoa soft coral in there, they can release palytoxin and that can be a serious problem.
You said you aren't feeling well? Could you already have been exposed?
Jay
Did you see my post warning you about palythoa? Do NOT climb into the tank and mess around if there is palythoa soft coral in there, they can release palytoxin and that can be a serious problem.
You said you aren't feeling well? Could you already have been exposed?
Jay
The sand is inUpdate getting ready for the final rinse
Ok the bag said no rinseDid you see my post warning you about palythoa? Do NOT climb into the tank and mess around if there is palythoa soft coral in there, they can release palytoxin and that can be a serious problem.
You said you aren't feeling well? Could you already have been exposed?
Jay
We both know you will be back !I’m out. This was the most offensive rip clean I’ve ever seen. I’ve never been so concerned for another aquarist only for them to do literally opposite of every stated prep and follow through effort, nobody should repeat any aspect of this. Nobody should skip going to the doctor when reporting aquarium potential sickness, your poor fish.
One might consider using a power drill with a paint mixer attachment to thoroughly stir the sand in the rinse water. Stirring too long will abrade the biofilm and possibly kill it. Just a thought.Agreed it’s horrible work, so bad Id recommend all new sand
Which is still pre rinsed but in half the time.
I estimate it will take six hours of rinsing in sections to get this much old sand cleared, then you glass test each sub section to make sure it’s clear- verification assessments are in each linked thread to ensure there isn’t an excuse for incomplete rinsing which can kill the whole reef, all at once, opposite of our collection of wins
why do I get the impression that literally only a ten second cursory reading of the threads has been done
It’s worth the time to study to catch all the small details this is a huge job, not like a nano rip clean
If not,you now 2 days behind but maybe good idea to ask Jay and show him pictures of this tang or any signs on any fish that not normal and say any behaviours like swimming Into powerhead,loss of appetite,spots,marks,loss of colour and the like to get an opinion and decide if or what medication will or won't use as like I said other day and jay said earlier a parasite could of been in your tank long time but low numbers or added in recently and huge stress event caused fish to get weaken and give upper hand.@Jay Hemdal is r2r resident expert on fish diesese,I know vetteguy very knowledgeable also but he already been tagged.
I'm no expert but If was me I would be thinking if you didn't qt in first place on your fish and your fish have built up an immunity to certain parasites thats great but a huge stress event like this could weaken your fish and then parasites/ dieseses got the upper hand to strike so if is the case then could medicate your fish whilst they in qt.i will post Jay's current diesese protocol 2021 in a moment if you want a read while you waiting for water to get made but please wait till jay replys to give an expert opinion.
And even if your fish not shown any signs of diesese or parasites in last years,they could still be in your tank but in low numbers or whatever .
Anyway good luck you got a big job ahead of you.
Maybe ask family or friends to help you to speed things up ^_^
Edit: current diesese protocol
2021
Current Quarantine Protocol
2023 Quarantine Procedures Jay Hemdal David Scarborough Protozoans (Cryptocaryon/ich, Amyloodinium/velvet) and Metazoan trematodes/flukes are by far the most common parasites found on newly acquired fish. A carefully managed quarantine process can effectively eliminate these parasites before...www.reef2reef.com
I also see on first page you say lost 2 tangs and a angel and clownfish,tangs have thin slime coats so I read alot people say this is why tangs are known as ich magnets as thinner slime coats so more susceptible to parasites ( not saying you got ich but saying still get advice from jay on his opinion but this tank and its inhabitants had a possible huge stress event)
Also on this screenshot of your orange shoulder tang I believe it is,what's on it where outlined ?
Thanks for the laugh, that was needed and appreciated !Rusty is on the no dangerous herps list. If you ever think even for one second of owning a king cobra, you can’t because you’re on the list. Same for a tiger, a cone snail, or a rattler with fangs in tact, the list bans all those.
And it takes someone as insulted such as yourself to nominate or tag someone with said herps flag ?Only in the sand rinse thread as a staunch, staunch warning of what never to do for the sake of human health and fish tank longevity.
you know how there’s a no fly list
Rusty is on the no dangerous herps list. If you ever think even for one second of owning a king cobra, you can’t because you’re on the list. Same for a tiger, a cone snail, or a rattler with fangs in tact, the list bans all those.
Think of the wholeThat was a play on words to elucidate that reef2reef doesn’t want anyone dying from palytoxin, because apparently it’s common to take the risk with such organisms. We got a little flip flop here: I’m sick, it’s probably from the tank then to—> na nevermind its something the whole family already had.
that’s a flip flop between I might die to: psych, I’m secretly not considering anything anyone is writing here but my expectation is still for you to keep my twenty year reef alive.
It was horrible to put any family in harms way during the rip clean, which occurred. I was frustrated at attempting to help someone and then the result is they put an entire family in potential harm with a cloudy refill at the end, without reading one single prep mentioned from page one.
when you killed your fish with one handful of sand, I’m now thinking it could have been disease just the same.
If I stressed about everything that’s happened in life to everyone else. .Your sideline summaries are always helpful in the overall live time jobs we work. appreciate the constant prediction and reference to prior safe jobs, watching out for personal symptoms etc