40G Breeder Revival From Hurricane Ida - Doing everything wrong

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So This is how I left my 40 gallon breeder the night we left before the storm. It was about 4 months old. I wanted a final video and picture because I knew it was unlikely I would be coming back to this. Unfortunately I was right. I use the zeovit dosing system with a BCB basket and a box filter.

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We were evacuated for about a month total due to unfortunate circumstances. We had no power for something like 16 days. This is what I came home too. IMG_2553.jpg
Pretty rough and upsetting. I lost multiple tanks and fish of freshwater and saltwater. Oddly enough there was 2 freshwater tanks that survived by getting just enough sunlight through a window I believe. But anyway this is about the saltwater. It took me a couple days to figure out what route I wanted to go with this but I decided that I would push this recovery to the limit and see what can be done by doing everything wrong, technically. I do everything incorrectly as standard operating procedure but really pushed it for this. I did no water changes and no gravel vacuuming. I use tap water that I pump directly into the tank with safe when I need to top off the tank. This tank was off the chart with ammonia and nitrites as can be expected. I resumed dosing the zeovit system and within 2 weeks ammonia and nitrites were down to zero again and I started things off again by adding clean up crew of hermit crabs, snails, and conchs. Photos below show the progress of this. There was many bacteria blooms during this process.
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Eventually I felt ready to add some fish. Fish have been a huge challenge. Coming in DOA or near DOA. I was able to revive a flasher wrasse and Eibli angel.
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Then I ordered some more fish from LiveAquaria. I think one of them came in with Uronemia and wiped out everything except for my flasher wrasse. Will be using a 10 gallon tank or 2 for quarantine now. On November 19 I added some corals. A torch, 2 hammers, birdsnest, leptastria, favia, and goniopora.
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Below picture is what the tank is looking like today.

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I'm having a dino outbreak at the moment, but not that big of a deal. I know it will pass in enough time and the corals are doing amazing. I actually mounted the torch and hammers yesterday and will post updated photos in a couple days I'm sure. Nitrates are running near zero. Phosphate was at .09 last check.

The reason behind my madness: I love to breed fish and have multiple aquariums. The traditional methods of reef keeping are not conducive to these goals. It's too much equipment and too much money to make it feasible. This was a proof of concept that a saltwater aquarium can be run very simply. I think this is critical to make hobbyist breeding for saltwater fish a viable thing. No one is going to keep multiple 10k dollar aquariums. We need to find ways around this.
I could speed things up by vacuuming gravel and scrubbing rocks but from my results it's not necessary. I just change out the box filter occasionally which does a great job of collecting detritus. My moto is keep it simple stupid. Zeovit is an amazing system and it works well for me with this method. I'm sure I've left some things out but I'll be updating as time goes on. IMG_2825.jpg
 

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Cheering for you on your adventure! I have also done a lot of fish breeding and I look forward to seeing where this goes.
 

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Tank and corals are doing well. Still slightly hazy but dinos are just about gone.

But of course fish are continuing to be a problem. I ordered an eibli and 3 royal gramma and some orange Chestnut snails (they aren't orange at all but they do an amazing job cleaning). I put the angel right into this tank on December 13 and he's been doing amazing. I put the three royal gramma in their own 10 gallon for now and glad I did. Today the angel has 2 spots of ich. I treated the whole tank with approximately 25 ml of hydrogen peroxide and I'm going to see how that goes. If no improvement by tonight/tomorrow morning I will pull the angel and wrasse into their own 10 gallon and treat them with ich x. Probably leave the 40 gallon fallow for 3 months and hope for the best. Never a boring moment I guess. 6D7B672E-4938-44C7-A8AC-0A3231029FEB.jpeg
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The hydrogen peroxide I think works a bit but not good enough. A couple hours after does ng the spots went away. Woke up this morning to more spots than yesterday. Luckily I reset a tank for them yesterday. Just have to catch the wrasse now but he seems to be really resistant to the ich so it's not a rush. One of my royal gramma decided that life was too hard and died last night. If I end up with one it'll be a miracle at this rate. Fish really suck.
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This is what it looks like now. No water changes, no gravel vacs, no scrubs, no ripping necessary. And it's almost too clean in my opinion. The corals are doing well. The hazziness is a phytoplankton bloom. It turned pea soup green for several days I turned my light intensity down a lot and that allowed the algae to die off and it is just about gone. I notice that my corals are doing way better with the lowered light intensity as well. I was way over lighting this tank before.

Fish are still a giant pain in my butt but we'll get it eventually. I believe it's very underestimated how much a mature system is important for fish. I would say it's more important for fish than most corals.
 
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Got some corals in this week and today the water has cleared up well. To say I’m happy with it is an understatement. Got some more corals coming in soon. This aquarium is 268 days old in total and about 115 days since death and reboot.
 
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I was still dealing with green water for the past couple weeks but I believe I have my zeo dosing and lighting just about dialed in now and today the tank has cleared up a lot. Most corals seem to be doing well. I lost my Orange hammer unfortunately and a birds nest that did not do good in shipping. I’m really looking forward to seeing this tank grow now and will start to get some more fish in it.
 
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Update? Update! Loving this tank and got some new fire coming in next week. Not like holy grail torch kind of fire though I’m super tempted to buy one after seeing how happy these torches are. I’m just really happy all the way around and really enjoying this tank. Hardest part of reefing is watching the tank and doing nothing. I do a lot of watching and little intervention.
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Tank is doing great imo. Some things could be better but that’s how it goes. I lost some torches unfortunately but looks like it stopped. Acros are the easiest corals to grow imo. Birds nest the hardest. I did an Ati icp test out of curiosity and it didn’t show anything too crazy I think. I haven’t had to start dosing yet. Patiently waiting for alk to decrease still around 10.2. Itching for more coral and fish so might add more soon.
 

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Things are going well, really well actually. Making me nervous with hurricane season here again.

I broke the bad luck streak of losing fish. I fallowed my 2 qt tanks for over 100 days and got a yellow candy hogfish and royal gramma. Finally some solid success. They have been in qt tanks for 21 days now and I am eager to put them in the 40 gallon. Soon. But they have been doing amazing and I love the hogfish, so amazing and beautiful and eats like it’s going out of style.

In the 40 gallon tank I’m getting an explosion of snails finally which I’m pumped about. Lots of baby stomatellas and trochus and even a baby tiger conch.
 

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Things are going really well. Got the whole family together and dang it feels good to finally get to this point again. I’m waiting until after hurricane season to get some more corals, I can’t wait.

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Just an update as things are going well. It’s always important to really enjoy your tanks when things are going well because we all know how fast that can change.

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My quarantine tank 1 is slowly turning into a bit of a reef tank. Corals grow like mad in it now.
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this royal gramma is ready for the 40 gallon. It’s a fat little spoiled thing now. I’d like to get another fish to put in qt1 that I can quarantine and introduce the both of these to the 40gallon at the same time.
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The 40 gallon gang in the blurriest pic I’ve ever taken
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I love watching this coral go super saiyan at night. Fast grower too.
 
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Picked up a Christmas wrasse for the qt tank yesterday. She’s doing awesome and ate flakes already this morning. Really in love with this one.

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Had to get some pics because things are just hitting so well today. Happy reefing all.
 

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things are going well. Acros are really starting to take off and I have for the first time gotten an acro to fully encrust the frag plug and spill over onto the rock. I’m more excited about that than I thought I would be. The other Acros are not far behind. My pc rainbow has really started to puddle in the last week. Fun stuff. So I figured it was time to transition my lower 40g breeder into a saltwater reef tank as well because why not. I’ve got some plans for this tank. I covered the bottom with rock and plan to get a pair of mandarin dragonets. Lets see if we can make some babies. Also will be mounting corals to tiles in an “aquaculture” style and mounting those tiles to the rocks. Should be fun. Tanks been cycling for a little over a month now. Ugly stage is just about over. Also I just bought a bottle of pink corraline algae from arc to put into this tank and see if I can get that going faster just out of curiosity so I will update on how that goes. Happy reefing all.
 
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Things are going pretty well. Really happy with this tank. I keep messing things up a bit by over dosing amino acids but I’ve just about got that figured out now. Not bad for no water changes, tap water, and no sump though. I’m hoping that my grammas will start spawning soon so I can start playing around with that. I’ve been holding off on adding anymore fish to this tank because they seem to be very comfortable and happy right now so I don’t want to mess them up but I will put more fish in eventually. I would like to add some rocks to make the back taller as well I think. Happy reefing everyone.
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