A R2R Spotlight: "PPRPE"

[ficklefins]

The Club-Zoa Spotlight took a break while you guys posted some great pics in the photo contest. Congratulations again to BeakerBob. So we are back and I wanted to thank Vince (kigs) :hello2: for requesting this spotlight.

PPRPE

- This Zoanthus gigantus looks like the PPEs elaborate cousin. The core factors to make it a PPE are all there; the Green Skirt, the PE (green mouth), and the purple oral disc. But what makes this particular morph different are the white touches in it. What stands out is the turquoise border that surrounds the oral disk, but if you look closely this band isn't a full circle. Instead, there are breaks in it where the PE mouth is the widest. Another difference you may notice are the turquoise speckles on the oral disc.

*** I don't have these zoas so it will be up to the CZ community to give us the best lighting, flow, feed or not, or any other info for this color strain.***


Lighting:
- This Zoanthus gigantus enjoys higher par lighting and will show better coloration as well. Lower light and new polyps may be missing the white ring with a look similar to a PPE.

Flow:
- Medium flow with a chaotic pattern preferred. Medium flow is enough to shake the skirts but not enough force the polyp to close. Trial and error may be needed, but it is always safer to start with a lower flow and add more.

Feeding:
- Not necessary, but some keepers have noticed a reaction to food.

Origins:
- The Caribbeans

Growth Rate:
-

Rarity:
- Not very easy to find, and may fetch for a decent price.

ID Confusions:
- May be confused with PPE, especially when PPEs are exposed to a lot of light and develop white speckles. In general this strain is rather unique with the closest color pattern being The Grimace .

Other info:
- This morph was originally named by The Propagator. :hello2:

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[ficklefins]

So this my most wanted frag so I will ban anybody who posts pics and doesn't offer me a freebie. Just Kidding. As always, your input and pictures are what makes these successful.

Don't forget, you can click on the name "PPRPE" and it will take you to zoaid.

 

[Chelsey]

I would sell the clothes off of my back for some of these

 

[msman825]

got to love um. very nice indeed

 

[Ike]

I would sell the clothes off of my back for some of these

Are you hawt? :hammer: Just kidding

Anyhow, I'm with you, this is one I certainly want to get.

What are peoples thoughts on is this is truely a different zoanthid rather than a PPE exposed to different light? It seems other PEs like Red and Green can morph into what people consider a different type of PE.

 

[Kigs!]

We should sticky each month's CZ spotlight...;] Jeremy, you got PM. Hopefully I can post a pic of mine soon...=]

 

[chadfarmer]

I would sell the clothes off of my back for some of these

really?:hammer:

dont worry you will get them in time:sign3: :nopic2:

 

[Chelsey]

*shakes head*

Boys are dumb

 

[jonbar1]

They are actually quite distinct from PPE that have been exposed to high light. The band around the disc is actually more of a turquoise than white.

Here's a pic next to PPE that have morphed under Metal Halides:

From above:

Here they are when I first got them next to PPE:

They readily accept meaty foods like mysis and cyclopeeze. I give bright light and moderate flow. Under lower light they lose the speckling on new polyps, but not the turquoise ring.

 

[twon8]

here is one of my frags:

 

[The Fragmaster]

Did that come from Marvin Twon?
Interesting morph if its from my original strain?
That will be killer if it holds that coloration for sure !

So........ The PPRPE.

Who knew they would be such a smash? Whe knew they would grow to PPE toppling porportions?
I sold 2 polyps on Ebay three weeks ago at auction and they went for $177 ! Two weeks ago a single polyp of mine went at auction for $75.00.
Its CRAZY !
mgomgomg:


I purchased these as a random frag from one of my suppliers in the Florida Key's about 8-9 months ago maybe?
"When I 1st got them I thought YEAH PPE !!"
Then when they fully opened I thought what the heck? These is UGLY!"
After a week under 2x 250Mh 14k they blossomed somthing wicked !

They are easy to keep and pretty well straight forward just like all the other PE's out there today.
If you blast them with light the develope the speckels and the ring lightens.
If you keep them under vho or pc the purple darkens up as dose the rings but no speckles.
If you place them under moderate wattage halide their purple will darken into a RICH deep purple and the green skirt will also deveope into a BEAUTIFULL neon green. The turquoise ring also gets a tad bluer.

I have never fed them anything but flow and light honestly.
Its nice to know they will accept food stuffs though.
Now I will try and feed the "Mayflower group"

At 1st they seemed to grow much slower then other PE's under my care (including PPE). But recently they have REALY taken off.
Nothing spectacularly fast but it sbetter than 1 polyp a month now LOL!

They also do better under moderate flow. Try hitting them with just enough to make the edges of the skirts curl a little. That will stimulate them to spread more readly.

Its 7am here and I have been up all night....excus eme if I rambled or made no sense, I will edit it out later LOL!
I'll snap off some new pics of my "mayflower group" later tonight or this week for you guys.

Thank you for spolighting these little fellas !
It feels good to know you have smothing special ya know.

( is that vane?)

Talk to you all soon..........

Duane ( AKA The Propagator)

 

[MarvinsReef]

you've seen the pics before but here they are... came from Duane himself..

Lighting
-mine are on the sand bed under 250w MH DE w/ 14k Phoenix (18" high tank)... I actually just moved them a tad higher on the rockwork to see if more speckling will develop..

Flow
-they receive low-med flow at their current location

Feeding
-they do close up when I feed my fishes, dunno if they are feeding or it's just a feeding response

Origin
- The Caribbeans

Growth Rate
-I started with 4 last week of Jan and currently, I have 8-9 polyps

Rarity
- Not very easy to find, and may fetch for a decent price.

ID Confusions
- May be confused with PPE, especially when PPEs are exposed to a lot of light and develop white speckles. It is also confused with "The Grimace"

http://www.zoaid.com/index.php?module=Gallery2&g2_itemId=3631

 

[revhtree]

Here is a pic of what I got.

Lighting
-mine are on the sand bed under 250w MH HQI 20K
-they started to loose the bluish/grey ring and have since developed them back

Flow
-they receive low-med flow at their current location

Feeding
-I have noticed them close up on some cyclopeeze when I feed the tank

Origin
- The Caribbeans (duane aka: fragmaster)

Growth Rate
-I have had these for a good month and a half I believe. They are starting to bud now so we will see

Rarity
- Pretty rare. I happened across the thread where Duane (fragmaster) (propagator), just got them in around August/September. I said I wanted a frag when he fragged them and lo and behold I was on list one! Thanks Duane!

ID Confusions
- After getting them in my tank I was so happy with them and still are of course, but they started to loose the ring. It's then when I thought they could possibly be PPE. That's what they were looking like, and at the time a ppe frag I had developed a ring similar to those of the pprpe. Since then I have come to my own conclusion that they are in fact a different morph and of that I am very happy.

 

[revhtree]

Oh recent pics of my PPRPE show the ring more defined and detailed like Marvs.

 

[The Fragmaster]

Lower lighting situations tend to let the ring fade a bit.
You will notice that juvenile polyps look dead on PPE though.
Its uncanny. You'll think "SCORE its a moprph ! TWO FOR ONE !"
Then when it grows out a bit more you will see its realy its own
Morph and if anything somthing will morph from it, rather than it morphing back into somthing else from being "over exposed".

I can honestly say I have never seen anything that even resembles a close second to them. The Grimace? Maybe.... I have never seen them in person.
My supplier found a very small patch of them and sent me a tiny frag of 6-8 polyps of them.
From that one small frag I have only made and sold probably
10-12 frags. They are not the fastest growers under the sun but they have thier spurts I guess? LOL! Now that same frag is still only about 15-20 polyps. ( Mainly due to fragging though)



Revh your AV is killing me man !!

 

[revhtree]

Revh your AV is killing me man !!

HAHA! That just made my day!! LOL!

 

[Darren]

Man I love those. Somebody help a brother out with these!!

 

[ficklefins]

Information updated! I"ll keep updating when I can.

 

[twon8]

i got them from dad63?? (david) awhile ago, here is what they looked like soon after introduction_

 

[143gadgets]

I have some similar to Marvin's as well as some that are similiar to Twon's. Here are a couple pics.