After Chemi-Clean

[7237689918]

Hi.

So I had an outbreak of cyan that I just couldn't get rid of and, full disclosure, I really got tired of cleaning (trying) the sand several times a week. I never did get to root cause but I will say my parms were never out of whack from what I was shooting for (no3 5-10, po4 5-10, precision implied...).

Anyway, bit the bullet and went for Chemi-Clean, 60% of recommended dosage. It seemed to do the trick.

My question is, after such a treatment, do I need to change any parms to account for the change, be concerned about anything in particular that may have been depleted and/or changed as a result of the treatment?

Thx!

 

[ReeferBud]

I’ve faced the same issue and have noticed that it takes a few months and cycles of chemiclean to completely get rid of cyano. My parameters were where I wanted them at NO3 of 5-10ppm and PO4 of 0.03-0.08ppm.

I don’t think you really meant PO4 of 5-10ppm, did you?

If your nutrients are where you want them and your corals are doing well, I’d be cautious of going and chasing numbers and altering things, creating a bigger problem in the process and impacting the health of your corals. You didn’t say whether your corals were doing well or not but that would be the first thing I’d consider in figuring out your next steps.

Do the recommended water change at 48 hrs and you may want to increase the frequency of water changes for the next couple of months. That’s what I did and the cyano problem eventually went away.

 

[xaflatoonx]

Your skimmer will go nuts if you turn it on. It will stabilize in a week or so. That’s the only thing. The rest should be good.

From my experience of using it twice.

 

[7237689918]

Thanks guys.

All my LPS's seem to be doing well and nutrients are still in the ranges (PO$ correction from above PO4 .05 - .1) I am shooting for. SPS's, except a Monti, have never done well so I haven't negatively affected them. Hopefully, the one treatment does it but will see. Good idea on the water changes. I'll add in a few extra to make sure everything is replinished.

 

[ReeferBud]

Let us know how it goes!

There’s a thread in here suggesting that chemiclean may help stop STN, which would certainly be very interesting.

 

[7237689918]

Let us know how it goes!

There’s a thread in here suggesting that chemiclean may help stop STN, which would certainly be very interesting.

That's intesting. I have nothing but STN on my acros. I'll see if that changes. As I only used a 1/2 dose of the Chemo-Clean I'm guessing I'll need another (and will do full treatment if so).

 

[vetteguy53081]

A light siphoning and leave it at that. Change nothing, leave skimmer off and keep lights low gradually returning to normal intensity for 4-5 days

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

After antibiotic treatment like chemiclean, nutrients may be very high from the dead cyano, and removing these nutrients may be useful.

 

[Nick30G]

I have fought Cyano in the past and won with chemiclean. Just follow what the instructions stay to the T and you will be fine. Keep your skimmer on (with cup off) because it will overflow. It is very important to oxygenate the water during a chemiclean treatment. In my experience it worked well at getting rid of cyano.

 

[7237689918]

I have fought Cyano in the past and won with chemiclean. Just follow what the instructions stay to the T and you will be fine. Keep your skimmer on (with cup off) because it will overflow. It is very important to oxygenate the water during a chemiclean treatment. In my experience it worked well at getting rid of cyano.

Yea, it seemed to go well. I also bought an air deal and had it in the tank the entire time. Didn't lose anything so that's good. Just wasn't sure if it killed off other things as well that I needed to be concerned about.

 

[adawg362]

It'd be interesting to see if chemiclean helps with STN since it's been reported that stn/rtn may be caused by bacteria and chemi-clean is an antibiotic of sorts. It wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility.

 

[7237689918]

It'd be interesting to see if chemiclean helps with STN since it's been reported that stn/rtn may be caused by bacteria and chemi-clean is an antibiotic of sorts. It wouldn't be beyond the realm of possibility.

Hope so!

 

[Anxur]

It's necessary dose bacteria after treatment?

 

[themcnertney]

Ive had success a few different times over the years, small frequent water changes were key for me

 

[twentyleagues]

It's necessary dose bacteria after treatment?

Depending on whats in the tank, possibly. Its an antibiotic so some bacteria will probably be lost. I did a cipro dose pretty heavy to stop bjd I think it probably affected the other bacteria as well. I did not add any bacteria in and never really saw a rise in ammonia, but my typical nitrate levels dropped by about 15ppm after. I have a pretty light fish load and a lot of corals. All corals in the tank looked much better after the cipro. I think the corals are using the ammonia before whatever is left of bacteria gets to it in my tank currently. Nothing else changed no new or explosive growth of algaes to help explain the changes. P04 is down as well from .12 to .06-.08.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Most folks do not dose bacteria after chemiclean.

If the question relates to the nitrogen cycle as in you other recent pists about antibiotics, then no, I’ve not seen anyone report issues that require dosing nitrifiers.

Those who do dose are usually trying to get some more friendly bacteria onto the surfaces the cyano vacated, not trying to accomplish any particular biochemical task.

 

[Anxur]

Most folks do not dose bacteria after chemiclean.

If the question relates to the nitrogen cycle as in you other recent pists about antibiotics, then no, I’ve not seen anyone report issues that require dosing nitrifiers.

Those who do dose are usually trying to get some more friendly bacteria onto the surfaces the cyano vacated, not trying to accomplish any particular biochemical task.dy, I need your advice. I dosed tylosin 60 hours ago (on August 20th at 07:00) and today I performed a 100-liter water change on my 335-liter marine aquarium. Do you think it’s safe to add ATM Colony Marine tonight, or could residual tylosin still inhibit the bacteria and make it better to wait a bit longer?"

Most folks do not dose bacteria after chemiclean.

If the question relates to the nitrogen cycle as in you other recent pists about antibiotics, then no, I’ve not seen anyone report issues that require dosing nitrifiers.

Those who do dose are usually trying to get some more friendly bacteria onto the surfaces the cyano vacated, not trying to accomplish any particular biochemical task.

Hi Randy, I need your advice. I dosed tylosin 60 hours ago (on August 20th at 07:00) and today I performed a 100-liter water change on my 335-liter marine aquarium. Do you think it’s safe to add ATM Colony Marine tonight, or could residual tylosin still inhibit the bacteria and make it better to wait a bit longer?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I don't know how long tylosin stays in a typical reef tank, or whether it will kill anything in that product, but if you do not find good answers, one option is to add half now and the other half in a week.

 

[Anxur]

I don't know how long tylosin stays in a typical reef tank, or whether it will kill anything in that product, but if you do not find good answers, one option is to add half now and the other half in a week.

Thanks