Am I going overstocked soon?

[littlefoxx]

Tbh I've never actually seen anyone have a horseshoe crab die on them, but maybe that's because I've mostly been reading about them in aquaculture conditions.

Same, but they are also essentially dinosaurs in way of evolution so theyve been around a fatttt minute lol

 

[Dbichler]

Tbh I've never actually seen anyone have a horseshoe crab die on them, but maybe that's because I've mostly been reading about them in aquaculture conditions.

You’ve also probably never seen one full size in an aquarium which is 2 feet in length and 12 inches wide.

 

[2020 Worst Year]

Price doesn't indicate rarity... have you ever seen a Parachaetodon ocellatus for sale?

These have 1 for sale

https://www.masterfisch.eu/en/marine-fish-butterflyfish/627-false-bat-butterflyfish.html
P.S i am from EU

 

[Alpha_and_Gec]

You’ve also probably never seen one full size in an aquarium which is 2 feet in length and 12 inches wide.

Seen them at max size in public aquariums before. They were kept with a bunch of leopard sharks(wrong ocean but eh) and sometimes they would swim on the surface upside down. I'll just eat them when they get that big, plus sourcing Asian species that prefer tropical temperatures.

 

[Alpha_and_Gec]

These have 1 for sale

https://www.masterfisch.eu/en/marine-fish-butterflyfish/627-false-bat-butterflyfish.html
P.S i am from EU

Must be a bit different across the Atlantic then, I can't find anywhere else with them other than quality marine. It's a bit odd since they don't seem to have a very different range to Chaetodon and other commonly collected butterflies.

 

[littlefoxx]

Seen them at max size in public aquariums before. They were kept with a bunch of leopard sharks(wrong ocean but eh) and sometimes they would swim on the surface upside down. I'll just eat them when they get that big, plus sourcing Asian species that prefer tropical temperatures.

Omg I would never eat mine lol I would bring her to my local aquarium when she gets max size lol Im too attached to her to eat her!

 

[Alpha_and_Gec]

Omg I would never eat mine lol I would bring her to my local aquarium when she gets max size lol Im too attached to her to eat her!

There are two types of people in this world... lol

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

Must be a bit different across the Atlantic then, I can't find anywhere else with them other than quality marine. It's a bit odd since they don't seem to have a very different range to Chaetodon and other commonly collected butterflies.

Possibly because they don't do well in captivity?

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

There are two types of people in this world... lol

This is becoming quite apparent.

Good luck with your endeavors.

 

[Alpha_and_Gec]

Possibly because they don't do well in captivity?

Yeah, might be. There's very little I can find online about them in literature or otherwise, I'd personally be wary.
But then this isn't the case for corallivorous butterflies from what I've seen, despite them being known to be difficult. Doesn't necessarily contradict the argument though.

 

[Doctorgori]

So I run an 80 gal reef with currently 1 cleaner wrasse, 1 dusky(marginatus) wrasse, 1 pholidicthys, 1 Valenciennea strigata, 1 longnosed hawk, and 1 unimaculatus foxface. Am I overstocked? How much extra capacity do I have if I'm not?

All of these except for the pholidicthys are middle - of - the - column fish, which I didn't expect, especially for the goby. Nutrients are all under control(god bless chaeto)

No, close but not over…..and Im usually honest about folks overstocking…

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

No, close but not over…..and Im usually honest about folks overstocking…

But look at what he wants to add... 3 cardinals, 2 clowns, and a butterfly.

 

[littlefoxx]

There are two types of people in this world... lol

Lol 100%

 

[2020 Worst Year]

if you want a butterfly why not get the long nose butterfly i have never owned a butterfly so do some research and don't take my word for it but i believe these do alot better than the copperbands

 

[Alpha_and_Gec]

if you want a butterfly why not get the long nose butterfly i have never owned a butterfly so do some research and don't take my word for it but i believe these do alot better than the copperbands

that is... literally my initial proposal. Forcipiger longirostris. That one is flavissimus though, which has been listed as a corallivore.

 

[2020 Worst Year]

that is... literally my initial proposal. Forcipiger longirostris. That one is flavissimus though, which has been listed as a corallivore.

@i cant think has 1 maybe he will post here and give you more info on it

 

[i cant think]

that is... literally my initial proposal. Forcipiger longirostris. That one is flavissimus though, which has been listed as a corallivore.

They’re said to be more risky with coral… I’ve not seen it personally. I’ve had a Copperband and trust me, from having this guy I can already see a difference.

Copperbands are a pain to get settled in a high activity display, these guys however go in and will fight their way through. And for aiptasia, they do a much better job and seem to go for them more often.

I personally love this guy as he has what looks like a Mohawk and he runs round the tank with my foxface as though he’s in a gang.

 

[Alpha_and_Gec]

They’re said to be more risky with coral… I’ve not seen it personally. I’ve had a Copperband and trust me, from having this guy I can already see a difference.

Copperbands are a pain to get settled in a high activity display, these guys however go in and will fight their way through. And for aiptasia, they do a much better job and seem to go for them more often.

I personally love this guy as he has what looks like a Mohawk and he runs round the tank with my foxface as though he’s in a gang.

Everywhere I look there is a "don't trust butterflies" sign hanging on the wall, so I'm still not 100% confident on these guys, but I do want one...

although on another note, I managed to convince my mum out of cardinals because those things are stupid expensive here. Can you believe a threadfin costs $40 each?

 

[i cant think]

Everywhere I look there is a "don't trust butterflies" sign hanging on the wall, so I'm still not 100% confident on these guys, but I do want one...

I have mine with a multitude of coral;
Leathers
Hammers
Torches
Mushrooms
Mini maxi carpet nem (not a coral I know)
Chili

And a few others I may be missing. Nothing gets touched by him. I know your caution, but honestly nothing is better than just trying it :)

 

[Alpha_and_Gec]

And a few others I may be missing. Nothing gets touched by him. I know your caution, but honestly nothing is better than just trying it :)

That's right... I wouldn't want to go into this uninformed, but getting my own experience is never a bad thing.
My wallet would say otherwise but oh well

before someone goes confirmation bias on me I am currently doing a unit on the growth mindset and this seemed to be the exact kinda **** I'd be up to