Ammonium dosing

[Maho.B]

Wish I knew!!!

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

. So yes, there is some validity in nature to this Dino theory; however what is the something else that outcompetes Dinos in just days that causes the Dinos to disappear?

Does it need to be one thing in different tanks? Algae of many possible types? heterotrophic bacteria? Cyanobacteria? Diatoms?

I don’t have all the answers, but I think this theory explains a lot of observations. Not much else, for example, can explain how dosing silicate can sometimes help beat dinos.

 

[KrisReef]

Wow, that chef is cooking!
I got to do some investigation on the source of this image. Thanks again @exnisstech :star-struck: :rolling-on-the-floor-laughing::cool:

 

[LiquidSpace]

Wow, that chef is cooking!
I got to do some investigation on the source of this image. Thanks again @exnisstech :star-struck: :rolling-on-the-floor-laughing::cool:

You never know until she takes that hat off. You might eat your words.

 

[KrisReef]

You never know until she takes that hat off. You might eat your words.

Good point. Thanks for the wingmanship.

 

[CHSUB]

Does it need to be one thing in different tanks? Algae of many possible types? heterotrophic bacteria? Cyanobacteria? Diatoms?

I don’t have all the answers, but I think this theory explains a lot of observations. Not much else, for example, can explain how dosing silicate can sometimes help beat dinos.

I would agree, however, imo no3 for example at .2 ppm or above would seem adequate to supply all the competing organisms nutrients. I don’t see any reason to maintain no3 artificially higher. If a mature aquarium settles higher, so be it.

 

[KrisReef]

I tried science and I don't think they can actually tell us much atm

Example:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-15278-w
Redfield Ratio Trigger Alert-
Please discuss.

Jesus has an awesome reef

 

[CHSUB]

I tried science and I don't think they can actually tell us much atm

Example:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-15278-w
Redfield Ratio Trigger Alert-
Please discuss.

Jesus has an awesome reef

I chose to run my aquarium ecosystem as close to nature as possible. Today I tested po4 @ .02 which is many times higher than the GBR, but given the differences in food availability between natural reefs and my glass box an elevated po4 level is probably necessary. However, how much extra is needed? I believe I’m fine with .1 ppm no3 and .02 ppm po4. No scientific evidence has shown me any evidence to the contrary, including your post: “Reducing phosphorus discharge and availability would short-circuit the nitrogen fixation feedback loop and help avoid future acute and chronic eutrophication in the coastal GBR.”

This bolded quote gives me the impression that elevated po4 can lead to Cyano, which can fix n2 and provide more food to “nuisance” algae?

 

[Maho.B]

Just don’t use that big copper pot to mix it. Lol

I ordered the sodium nitrate (the same one pictured above) and it get's here tomorrow. Where can I find instructions to use it? Do you make a stock solution with it or dose directly? Thanks.

 

[Miami Reef]

I ordered the sodium nitrate (the same one pictured above) and it get's here tomorrow. Where can I find instructions to use it? Do you make a stock solution with it or dose directly? Thanks.

Hang tight. I have something planned for this coming shortly. :)

I’ll tag you and post it in this thread.

 

[Maho.B]

Great, thanks!

 

[Miami Reef]

Great, thanks!

This calculator will work. Select potassium nitrate. That’s what most of us use.

http://www.theplantedtank.co.uk/calculator.htm

 

[Maho.B]

This calculator will work. Select potassium nitrate. That’s what most of us use.

http://www.theplantedtank.co.uk/calculator.htm

This is very helpful thank you! This will work using sodium nitrate? Is there a recommended amount to increase nitrate per day in your opinion? Thanks

 

[Miami Reef]

This is very helpful thank you! This will work using sodium nitrate? Is there a recommended amount to increase nitrate per day in your opinion? Thanks

Use 84% of what the calculator says to account for the potassium/sodium difference.

You can safely add 2-5ppm.

 

[Maho.B]

Use 84% of what the calculator says to account for the potassium/sodium difference.

You can safely add 2-5ppm.

Thank you for the great info!

 

[Maho.B]

Use 84% of what the calculator says to account for the potassium/sodium difference.

You can safely add 2-5ppm.

Okay I'm feeling mathematically challenged and don't want to mess this up. My sodium Nitrate arrived today. I'm looking at the calculator you provided (thank you). In the "Amount to add" column if I enter 1 tsp it says 1 ml will add .97 ppm nitrate. Since I'm using Sodium Nitrate I multiply by 84% and it means its adding .81 ppm?

Calculator Example:
Tank Volume: 100 gallons
Nutrient: Nitrate from Potassium Nitrate
Amount to add: 1 tsp
Amount of water to mix with: 10 ml
Calculate:
= Each 1 ml of solution added to tank will add .97ppm * .84 = .81 ppm

Is that correct or am I WAY OFF???

 

[Miami Reef]

Okay I'm feeling mathematically challenged and don't want to mess this up. My sodium Nitrate arrived today. I'm looking at the calculator you provided (thank you). In the "Amount to add" column if I enter 1 tsp it says 1 ml will add .97 ppm nitrate. Since I'm using Sodium Nitrate I multiply by 84% and it means its adding .81 ppm?

Calculator Example:
Tank Volume: 100 gallons
Nutrient: Nitrate from Potassium Nitrate
Amount to add: 1 tsp
Amount of water to mix with: 10 ml
Calculate:
= Each 1 ml of solution added to tank will add .97ppm * .84 = .81 ppm

Is that correct or am I WAY OFF???

Yes. You are correct. :)

 

[Maho.B]

Yes. You are correct. :)

You are a life saver! Thanks. So I assume I can use that same formula and make a larger solution amount than 10 ml and dose accordingly. Thanks again. I love this forum.

 

[Miami Reef]

Correct.

Happy reefing!

 

[Dal]

Hi all, please help me. Im dosing ammonia bicarbonate for past 2 months. Started very slowly. Tank is 325 litres. Im now up to 3 doses of 6ml of solution per day. Dosing at 10am - 2pm and 6pm - nitrates still at 0! Donnt really want to feed more as already overfeeding and its just feels like food wasting if i feed even more.... so im dosing 0.1ppm ammonia 3 times per day and NO3 still 0. Can i dose more? Tested ammonia and its at 0 also. Is it better to split them doses into smaller doses and not into 3 times 0.1ppm? Im at 18ml per day of solution so not sure whay its not lifting my NO3