BABIES! HELP!

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So we grabbed a baby pom pom crab from the LFS today and when we got home, noticed the she's pregnant! Any chance I could raise these if I got some sort of contentment device? Hate to see them turn into fish food.
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D'awww, tiny mama! [emoji7]

Diesel's idea sounds like a good one; if they make it, I'd love to see this become a baby-crab-raising thread. [emoji170]
 
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Thank you all for some advice but unfortunately after reading more on this and taking everything into account I decided to just add Pom Mom to the MT. Maybe down the road I'll have more equipment and time to try and raise them. My main concern was going to be keeping the babies alive which apparently is quite the task as the larvae are pelagic and need plenty of live food. Diesel , your idea is on par and if I had more time at home this week I would have tried it.

In the future anyone else that runs into this you'll need the below:
Small containment device
Air bubbler
Aged live rock
Plenty of LIVE food , copepods (they do not eat dead food as larvae)
Don't bother trying to feed the larvae anything other than live foods as they will reject it.

Past post here with good points from Bongo Shrimp
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/reproduction-of-pom-pom-crabs-any-hope.232412/

Pretty much writing the little babies off but I'll update on Pom Mom if anything exciting happens and thanks again for there tips.
 
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Thanks. I wanted Pom Pom babies too.
Definitely a great article and wish I was able to stay home this week and try to hatch and raise these little ones. My LFS has live copepods but I was a little unsure where I could get nhbbs, iso, apocyclop ,Euterpina, L strain rotifers, from (per article). My LFs has rotifers but Im not sure if they're L strain? unfortunately the rookie (me) had to get these babies and leave town for the week :(.


Thanks for the link Salty and I'll learn a lot form this.
 

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I'm in a similar boat as Leadfooted. I have a peppermint shrimp that is carrying eggs but I'm way too new at this hobby to try to rear the fry. That's a long term dream of mine - learning to breed and raise invertebrates. Maybe once I retire.
 

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Check out this recent study on the pom-poms -- Apparently they will box each other and try to steal one of the nems(if nemless), then split the nem in twine to score two of them. I imagine babies wouldn't come equiped w/ their boxing gloves :).

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/01/crabs-anemones-pom-pom-clones-fight/
Nice !did you read how they split the nems? And yes mine boxed, but "wrestled" more:oops:......
Usually they punched fish in the nose though too.
 

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I've had this happen several times and never could tell when they hatched. (If they hatched)

The mom also stops caring for herself (not quick to eat and covered in microalgae) and in my case, died once. I will try not to add male and female to the same tank again.

I love these critters though!
 

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Definitely a great article and wish I was able to stay home this week and try to hatch and raise these little ones. My LFS has live copepods but I was a little unsure where I could get nhbbs, iso, apocyclop ,Euterpina, L strain rotifers, from (per article). My LFs has rotifers but Im not sure if they're L strain? unfortunately the rookie (me) had to get these babies and leave town for the week :(.


Thanks for the link Salty and I'll learn a lot form this.

Hey Leadfooted,

We carry some of the live feeds that you are looking for. We will have Apocyclops panamensis available in April and are looking at this copepod as the "new rotifer" because of their hardiness and ease of culture. The nauplii might be ideal for the crab larvae (70 micron N1 Stage Nauplii). We also carry L-Type rotifers, Brachionus plicatilis. The important thing to keep in mind is that these two animals can be cultured and enriched with our non-viable concentrates, relieving the aquarist of the need to culture algae. It's still good to have some live Isochrysis on hand for greenwater. Check out our animals and phytoplankton products at www.reedmariculture.com

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Hey Leadfooted,

We carry some of the live feeds that you are looking for. We will have Apocyclops panamensis available in April and are looking at this copepod as the "new rotifer" because of their hardiness and ease of culture. The nauplii might be ideal for the crab larvae (70 micron N1 Stage Nauplii). We also carry L-Type rotifers, Brachionus plicatilis. The important thing to keep in mind is that these two animals can be cultured and enriched with our non-viable concentrates, relieving the aquarist of the need to culture algae. It's still good to have some live Isochrysis on hand for greenwater. Check out our animals and phytoplankton products at www.reedmariculture.com

Chad
Thank you Chad! I'll grab some of you food for sure and set a reminder on my calendar to look for your Apocyclops in April. I'm sure my corals would like a change to their routine meal as well.
Do the live foods you carry tell you how long the shelf life is when you purchase (exp date?)
 
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Thank you Chad! I'll grab some of you food for sure and set a reminder on my calendar to look for your Apocyclops in April. I'm sure my corals would like a change to their routine meal as well.
Do the live foods you carry tell you how long the shelf life is when you purchase (exp date?)
I see my LFS (Fintastic) carries your brand so I'll have Carl order some for me. You have all the foods I've heard about and appreciate the reach out.
 

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Thank you Chad! I'll grab some of you food for sure and set a reminder on my calendar to look for your Apocyclops in April. I'm sure my corals would like a change to their routine meal as well.
Do the live foods you carry tell you how long the shelf life is when you purchase (exp date?)

Typically, anything live that our retailers have is sold within a few weeks. The only live animal our retailers are routinely carrying is our Tigger-Pods. These copepods, Tigriopus californicus, are kept at low temperatures in a refrigerator so that the animals remain metabolically slowed. They can tolerate a wide range of temperatures, but it makes the most sense to keep them cold in a retail setting to prevent losses. You can special order the rotifers and Apocyclops panamensis copepods through your LFS.
What state are you in? I ask, because there is practically a Fintastic store in every state. ;)

Chad
 
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