Quarantining from Dr. Reef

[larrysaltisfun]

So not trying to add fuel to any fires, but I would love the opinion of the community on quarantining fish from Drreefs . I’m sure this has come up before, but what is the fish, medics consensus on whether there should be any change to the quarantine protocol per reef2reef for Watanabe angelfish that have been through the protocol at Dr reefs. The two fish I’m getting will be housed together in a 50 gallon quarantine tank. My plan was copper followed by Praze pro with a brief observation in beginning to make sure they were eating I am going to follow the consensus of the fish medics I.E.what would you do?

 

[Fish Fan]

I've never ordered from Dr. Reef, but I believe he offers both "conditioned" and "fully quarantined" fish. I believe we may have to be specific about which category of fish we're talking about, when deciding if they need to be QT'd or not.

 

[larrysaltisfun]

Fully quarantined they also come with the 3 7 and 14 day guarantee. (why aren’t you also a fish medic lol)

 

[Fish Fan]

(why aren’t you also a fish medic lol)

I closely follow and fully support the Fish Medic team, and that's how I know I'm not one of them (yet!), but thank you for the compliment

 

[DmitryB]

I feel like if you are going to quarantine fish yourself you should just order fish without the quarantine. In part because the stress of such extensive back-to-back medicated experiences would be way too stressful on the animal. And it would save you money to boot.

 

[larrysaltisfun]

(why aren’t you also a fish medic lol)

I follow and support the Fish Medics, and that's how I know I'm not one of them (yet!), but thank you for the compliment

Yes sir, I did mean it as a compliment. Thanks for all your help in the past.

 

[13rodo]

I've never ordered from Dr. Reef, but I believe he offers both "conditioned" and "fully quarantined" fish. I believe we may have to be specific about which category of fish we're talking about, when deciding if they need to be QT'd or not.

You are correct; they come two ways. Dr. Reef’s fish are great! My Pink-Streaked Wrasse was the conditioned variety and it is super fat and healthy. Can’t speak to the QT variety, but I’d assume you’d still follow whatever you normally do. Hope it works out!

FYI if you message them here they are responsive.

 

[larrysaltisfun]

I feel like if you are going to quarantine fish yourself you should just order fish without the quarantine. In part because the stress of such extensive back-to-back medicated experiences would be way too stressful on the animal. And it would save you money to boot.

I hear you, but there is some comfort in knowing they’ve already been through a quarantine process and closely observed by a very reputable source. It may come down to “do what you’re comfortable with call” but when you spend 350 bucks on a fish, i kinda wanna do with a consensus of the experts think. at least that’s how I look at it. Thanks for your thoughts. I don’t like to deviate from what they think, the way I see it, there’s a reason why they are fish medics.

 

[larrysaltisfun]

It’s interesting but I just read their terms and conditions, it says they expect you to observe fish for 14 to 21 days, do not put them in your own display tank and if you do your own quarantine/medication process, it voids the guarantee. Wow.

 

[vetteguy53081]

So not trying to add fuel to any fires, but I would love the opinion of the community on quarantining fish from Drreefs . I’m sure this has come up before, but what is the fish, medics consensus on whether there should be any change to the quarantine protocol per reef2reef for Watanabe angelfish that have been through the protocol at Dr reefs. The two fish I’m getting will be housed together in a 50 gallon quarantine tank. My plan was copper followed by Praze pro with a brief observation in beginning to make sure they were eating I am going to follow the consensus of the fish medics I.E.what would you do?

I recommend to do your own quarantine especially after shipping even for 14-21 days and assume they may have something. Disease is on us, not the fish

 

[larrysaltisfun]

Would you shorten up the copper or the Prazipro?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Would you shorten up the copper or the Prazipro?

Run copper at 2.25ppm and PraziPro for two applications 7 days apart at 85% of recommended dosage

 

[larrysaltisfun]

So copper for seven then prazipro for 14? Or are you saying both together for 21?

 

[larrysaltisfun]

I meant both together for 14?

 

[jonelder68]

At minimum do observation. While Dr. Reef is awesome there’s a fluke going around that seems to slip through prazi. Believe Dr. Reef does only one round of prazi treatment plus maybe a bath. But I now at minimum do observation and usually add a double prazi treatment (every 7-8 days dose prazi).

 

[petcellar]

I feel like if you are going to quarantine fish yourself you should just order fish without the quarantine. In part because the stress of such extensive back-to-back medicated experiences would be way too stressful on the animal. And it would save you money to boot.

This. I would't do back to back quarantine. I would either trust the vendors quarantine or do it myself.

I dont have the space and equipment so I do buy pre quarantined fish and take the risk. I have had a really good experience with Dr Reef in the past.

But if I had the space to do additional quarantine I think I would just do the whole process myself.

 

[MnFish1]

So not trying to add fuel to any fires, but I would love the opinion of the community on quarantining fish from Drreefs . I’m sure this has come up before, but what is the fish, medics consensus on whether there should be any change to the quarantine protocol per reef2reef for Watanabe angelfish that have been through the protocol at Dr reefs. The two fish I’m getting will be housed together in a 50 gallon quarantine tank. My plan was copper followed by Praze pro with a brief observation in beginning to make sure they were eating I am going to follow the consensus of the fish medics I.E.what would you do?

The general opinion, I think, would be to do at least observation for a month or so or just do the whole protocol. I think he does an excellent job, but there have been reports (as would be expected that some parasites SEEM to have gotten through. These reports may be outliers or caused by something else. In general I know him to be honorable, and works very hard to be sure the fish are perfect when they leave. He customer service is outstanding (my opinion)

Edit - I did not realize that if you do your own QT that it voids the warranty, and that he expects you to do your own quarantine. I can see the rationale for both of his points, The key is not to just drop the fish in the tank.

 

[vetteguy53081]

This. I would't do back to back quarantine. I would either trust the vendors quarantine or do it myself.

I dont have the space and equipment so I do buy pre quarantined fish and take the risk. I have had a really good experience with Dr Reef in the past.

But if I had the space to do additional quarantine I think I would just do the whole process myself.

He does a good job and is a trusted source for us. Because he has a guarantee on the fish. risk is low

 

[MnFish1]

At minimum do observation. While Dr. Reef is awesome there’s a fluke going around that seems to slip through prazi. Believe Dr. Reef does only one round of prazi treatment plus maybe a bath. But I now at minimum do observation and usually add a double prazi treatment (every 7-8 days dose prazi)

Thanks for mentioning this. Can you tell about your source? One issue with Prazipro depends on the tanks ability to degrade it thus making it ineffective. At least some articles state that this is the major problem (or misdoing or some other problem with the medication). I believe the the recommendation here is to do an additional treatment (i.e. 3), If there is an issue @Jay Hemdal

 

[vetteguy53081]

At minimum do observation. While Dr. Reef is awesome there’s a fluke going around that seems to slip through prazi. Believe Dr. Reef does only one round of prazi treatment plus maybe a bath. But I now at minimum do observation and usually add a double prazi treatment (every 7-8 days dose prazi).

This was one I referred to as there are isolated cases of Neobendidia flukes seen and again, with shipping stress and temperature changes, suggested to do your own even if short term