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Bad experience with ROBZ

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I hate to have to post a bad experince with a fellow hobbyist. But I feel it should be known to others. I had talked to Robie (ROBZ) about buying some of his high end sps frags. He assured me he was very experienced with shipping and he guaranteed live arrival. He said he has never had any losses with his shipping method. So we talked and I agreed to buy some frags from him. We agreed for him to cut the frags let them heal for a week before shipping. which turned into 2 weeks. And that he would use a ice pack since the temps were over 100 deg. The week he was suppose to ship he contacted me saying he would not be able to ship. He had some Dr.s appts to take his wife to. So we agreed for him to ship the following week. I reminded him again about using a ice pack. He shipped the frags with no ice pack and they all arrived RTN'd. I contacted Robie to let him know and he said he was sorry and that it was no problem he would reship me some more frags and that he would use a ice pack. He asked me to pay the shipping. I paid him again for the shipping. And I was looking forward to getting these frags alive. This time the frags were packed in a 8x8x8 shipping box with the ice pack ( a very large ice pack!) at the bottom of the box. The ice pack was way too big for this size box. The frags were placed on top of the ice pack with only a white trash bag between them. The frags all arrived RTN'd again. The water temp was 59 degs! . Robie asked for pics of proof that the frags were dead (RTN'd) so I took the pics and emailed them to him.

Robie told me no problem he was very sorry and that he would take care of it. And that I would receive my frags and no worries. So I waited a week to see when he would ship again. He finally replied after 3 or 4 emails saying he was at the beach for 10 days and would be in touch when he returned. So I waited and never heard back from him. So I started sending him emails and waited for a reply as to when he would ship my frags. I didn't heard anything from him. I sent 5 or 6 emails and got no reply to any of them. So I decided to call him and got his voice mail. And left a message telling him I really would like to get the frags that I had paid for or my money back. He returned my call. I asked if he had received any of my emails over the past few weeks and he said he had not. He said when he tried to call me he could not get in touch with me. He had my home phone w/ answering system and my cell phone number which has voice mail also. He never left me any messages and was not on my caller ID. I don't believe Robie tried to get in touch with me. He claimed he tried to email me and that he could not, that it was returned to him. I found this strange as well since he had emailed me at the same email address when we talked about selling me frags and shipping and when they arrived RTN"d. He also stated that he thought since he had not heard from me that all was well, and that I was happy??? Now how can I be happy and all be well when I have spent close to $500 in frags and shipping and have no frags to show for it?

So I asked him when would he ship me some more frags that I would like to get them. And he told me that he was not going to ship them until after his wife had the baby and they both were home and doing well.That everything was put on hold until then.
I don't feel that Robie (ROBZ) is doing the right thing by me making me wait on him to ship them when or if he decides to. I sent him the money for these frags almost 2 mos ago. All this started in June. And I still don't have my frags or my money returned.
I try to always give everyone a chance to prove themselves. But I think Robie (ROBZ) has no intentions to ship me any frags. Or to return my money. I sent him another email requesting my money refunded back. And I have not heard anything from him.

So I felt I needed to post about this experience so others will know. So Robie I hope you'll do the right thing and send me the frags as promised or send me a refund. Thats the only fair thing for you to do. So please contact me and lets get this worked out.
 

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Sorry to hear about this Fonda. Robbie is a stand up guy and a good friend of mine. I do know that his scheduled has been crazy for the last few months. We went from talking every other day to not talking at all. I'll give him a call tomorrow and get back to u. Please pm me ur cell or the best way to contact u. I'll make this right even if I have to ship u the frags myself. :) He's a good guy. Just streched a bit thin at the moment.
 

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Wow that sucks good thing to let us know
somtimes people like this makes me whant to get a plane ticket and appear in ther house
I know violence is not right but getting ripped off drives me crazy

Thats the way to handle it Chris
 
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Hey Chris,

I would apreciate it if you can help. It maybe best for you to ship the frags. I'm not too convinced that Robie knows how to do it correctly at this point. And I can't afford to keep paying shipping until he fiqures it out. :(
I sent you my contact info. Looking forward to hearing back from you.

Thanks.
 

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Robie has sent out more boxes of coral than anyone I know. He is a 1st class guy and will go out of his way to help any other reefer. Like chris said - he's in uncharted waters with work, a baby ontje way and family sleeping on all his couches 'till the baby gets here.

You have no worries dealing Robie, he's just slammed.
 

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Hey Fonda. I meant to PM u yesterday, but lost track of time and had to get to bed for work. I talked with him the other day. I feel at this point I should let you two handle this and I shouldn't be in the middle. I apologize for the post.
 
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Thanks Chris. I understand your point. I understand the baby is due in less than a week. I'll give Robie until mid next week to contact me on his plans for getting the frags /refund to me. We'll see if he is good on his word. I think that is more than reasonable.The next step will be to file a Paypal claim.
 
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Update: Well still no word from Robie. I've sent him a couple emails and PM's asking him to please do the right thing by me. Does anyone know if the baby was born yet? I have not heard anything from him.
 

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I don't know the guy, but I don't buy the excuse that he is slammed or really busy or waiting for a baby. Just refund the money and plan to do the sale after things calm down. It isn't right to hold on to someone's cash and then take well over two months to complete your side of the deal. That is assuming it gets completed at all.

Good luck with this.
 

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wow, I know that sometimes people get slammed and all and that good people can have a few months that are slammed but if you have the money you should take a little time out of a busy day to frag and then in another week take 15 mins out of your busy day again and ship. I know I live 25 mins from any shipping companies and it is a pain and isnt always easy but if I have someones money well they paid for my product and for my time and Icannot sleep until I get my part of the bargain done. I hope that there are no complications with the baby being this can cause a couple to be in the hospital for extended periods of time. But I do hope that you get your stuff as well. He seems like a pretty nice guy. I hope that he will get back with you.
 
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Thanks, I keep hoping that he will get in touch with me as well. Robie does seem like a nice guy.
 

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If you were going to get your money back or corals you would have them by now. Something went South on your deal . Not taking sides but there is two sides to every story. I would move on . What goes around comes around . Not worth the bad carma. Just my 2 cents.
 

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Just kills me, we are so nice and understanding for someone that has supposed extenuating circumstances that has basically stolen $500 of Fonda's money.

This would be a felony if it involved stolen merchandise from a store, with potentially serious jail time.

At the base of it: It would take no more than 2 hours max to clip, bag and ship a few acroporas, so the excuse of a pregnant wife is meaningless. A PayPal refund takes mere seconds, so there is no excuse there either.
Dave
 

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From what I hear in my local club, he is a cool, stand up guy -

But I have to agree with the above.....
 
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Update:

I filed a complaint with the law on RobZ. So we'll let them handle it from here.
 
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Just thought I'd post a final update. I have not heard back from Robz (robie) so looks like he never intended to do the right thing and send my frags or a refund.
 
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No I haven't heard anything from the law enforcement either. I filed 9/5/2009.
 

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Any updates? Did you file with PayPal?
 
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