Interesting. After reading this (ridiculous) debate and doing searches on here, seems this debate is been going on for quite sometime. With that said I will be using coral rx from here on out as that is my preferred method of dipping anyway.
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I don't want to use ANY pesticides
Just curious... Why not? It's the most gentle, most forgiving, yet most effective solution.I'd still prefer not to use it unless it's my last resort.
Just curious... Why not? It's the most gentle, most forgiving, yet most effective solution.
No one, not even kungpao, has killed their coral because of a bayer dip.
I'm allergic to most pesticides and antibiotics so don't want to add even traces of something that could cause a reaction if there's anyway to avoid it.Just curious... Why not? It's the most gentle, most forgiving, yet most effective solution.
No one, not even kungpao, has killed their coral because of a bayer dip.
That makes sense, and why I was asking.I'm allergic to most pesticides and antibiotics so don't want to add even traces of something that could cause a reaction if there's anyway to avoid it.
I completely understand, I'm always looking for new ways to do things but know that I have to avoid certain things as well.That makes sense, and why I was asking.
Just curious... Why not? It's the most gentle, most forgiving, yet most effective solution.
No one, not even kungpao, has killed their coral because of a bayer dip.
RAWR!!!!I'm sorry d2, but you are incorrect. After I stopped using it, I saw a reduction on necrosis. Don't pretend like I'm just an idiot to pass it off that bayer might not have played a factor. That's pretty unprogressive for the hobby, which we're all here for correct?
I find it funny the same crap being flung over and over in support of bayer. I was there once, until I realized one factor I never considered, the dip I was using.
If you want to throw me under the bus, that's on you and shows your character, but I'm here trying to make people think. That's progressive AND positive.
You want to bash people? Bash people who setup a tank and throw in corals all in the same day, that's really inappropriate.
Even stunreefer says 'I've seen some corals not tolerate it well'. Boy, I wonder why that might be? But fact of the matter is, don't act like I'm the only one. It's like some people get offended because I question their choices or such.
Even one person has a thread right now of 'baffled about sps bleaching'. And through all the posts, the one thing people aren't looking at? The freakin coral dip he's using is bayer!?! Could there be a connection? Idk, but if it's never taken seriously as a possible link and people like you, who's a mod, like another individual, ONLY bash the people questioning it, where does that lead us?
I'm thinking of the coral, not you.
I'm sorry d2, but you are incorrect. After I stopped using it, I saw a reduction on necrosis. Don't pretend like I'm just an idiot to pass it off that bayer might not have played a factor. That's pretty unprogressive for the hobby, which we're all here for correct?
I find it funny the same crap being flung over and over in support of bayer. I was there once, until I realized one factor I never considered, the dip I was using.
If you want to throw me under the bus, that's on you and shows your character, but I'm here trying to make people think. That's progressive AND positive.
You want to bash people? Bash people who setup a tank and throw in corals all in the same day, that's really inappropriate.
Even stunreefer says 'I've seen some corals not tolerate it well'. Boy, I wonder why that might be? But fact of the matter is, don't act like I'm the only one. It's like some people get offended because I question their choices or such.
Even one person has a thread right now of 'baffled about sps bleaching'. And through all the posts, the one thing people aren't looking at? The freakin coral dip he's using is bayer!?! Could there be a connection? Idk, but if it's never taken seriously as a possible link and people like you, who's a mod, like another individual, ONLY bash the people questioning it, where does that lead us?
I'm thinking of the coral, not you.
Using bayer as a coral dip is in violation of federal law.
Would you please expand upon this? Also please provide a citation so we can read it to understand better your warning.
Does this mean that if I use this product outdoors in my residential area for dipping my corals that I have complied with and not violated Federal Law?If you look at your bottle/bag under directions for use is say "It is a violation of Federal law to use this product in a manner inconsistent with its labeling. Before use, read and follow all label directions. For Outdoor residential use only"
And all those thousands of dollars and all that time will be wasted when you don't dip and introduce all sorts of nasty organisms to your tank.I'm always fascinated by the idea of using insecticide to dip our corals for pests!!! I mean it goes against all logical!!! We all spend thousands of dollars on equipment, getting the water parameters just perfect and consistent, perfect temp, perfect lighting etc......"yeah sure go ahead and throw that coral frag in a vat of chemicals and let it soak....it'll be fine!!!" LOL