Black spots on foxface and white on Clownfish

[Rmcuddy]

My Foxface has had black spots off and on for the past week, but today it was coated with them. Also, today I noticed a white film and dull color on my clownfish. Any advice on how to treat this? Unfortunately I dont have a quarantine tank.

 

[KJ]

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/fish-disease-index-pictorial-guide.285708/
@HotRocks @4FordFamily @Brew12 @Big G

 

[Softpaws]

What are you doing to correct this? Looks similar to black ick.

 

[Rmcuddy]

What are you doing to correct this? Looks similar to black ick.

That is why I posted on here, for some tips to cure whatever it is

 

[Softpaws]

I would get a large tote, from wallmart or whatever, and create your quarantine from that. I'm doing it now. As you know if you have an ich outbreak there are different opinions on how to take care of it.

If it were me I would quarantine all my fish right away, treat with the correct amount of copper and run it fallow for 76 days. Just to be sure. Others "manage" ich in a system and my belief is to try to get rid of it all.

However, if it is black ick then you may be able to treat it as flukes with prazipro and FW dips. Up to you how you want to go about it.

I can't see too well on your clown but it looks like a bit of white sprinkles on the fins? To me that would be ich, but then again I'm not a pro. However, because of the slimy coat I would say Brook. Especially on a clown.

 

[Mjrenz]

You're probably going to want to get a qt, also paging @ngoodermuth in addition to those already called

 

[Mastiffsrule]

The fox face seems to have black ich.

kJ summoned the squad, let’s see what they think

 

[Rmcuddy]

You're probably going to want to get a qt, also paging @ngoodermuth in addition to those already called

Looking to get one now and begin setup tomorrow. I planned on getting a 10 gallon one, should I use the water that is in my dt or will this still carry the disease?

 

[ngoodermuth]

Oh man, well the foxface has black ich for sure... a freshwater dip to provide immediate relief, followed by prazipro or general cure dosed twice 5-7 days apart would be needed there.

But, the clown has brooklynella.

Treating both at the same time is going to be tricky, but it can be done.

All fish that share the tank will need treated for both, since parasites are transferable between tankmates. Both affected fish would benefit from a freshwater dip first:


Followed by a bath in Acriflavine. All of the fish in the tank should get the bath, as it is an important step in treating brook. Only the symptomatic fish need the freshwater dip, though. Ruby reef rally and API Fungus Cure are both good sources of acriflavine.

After this the fish should be transferred to a clean QT. Don’t use anything from your display to set it up, to try to avoid transferring brook to the QT.

Then, you’ll need to dose General Cure. This has both the praziquantel (for black ich) and metronidazole (for brook). You’ll also need Metroplex (just metronidazole) for in between, and for 14 days total.

So Day 1- General Cure
Day 3- Metro
Day 5- Metro
Day 7- General Cure
Day 9- Metro
Day 11- Metro
Day 13- Metro
Day 15- water change and carbon

You should do a small water change before each dose. This will also help manage ammonia during treatment.

We can help you through each step if needed. I know it can be overwhelming dealing with multiple parasites at once :(

 

[Mjrenz]

Looking to get one now and begin setup tomorrow. I planned on getting a 10 gallon one, should I use the water that is in my dt or will this still carry the disease?

You'd probably be better off with new water and a clean setup. If you can get a 20 gallon long tank it will be a lot easier to control ammonia and salinity. You'll want to also get a product like biospira to start a biological filter, get a couple bottles

 

[Mjrenz]

Oh man, well the foxface has black ich for sure... a freshwater dip to provide immediate relief, followed by prazipro or general cure dosed twice 5-7 days apart would be needed there.

But, the clown has brooklynella.

Treating both at the same time is going to be tricky, but it can be done.

All fish that share the tank will need treated for both, since parasites are transferable between tankmates. Both affected fish would benefit from a freshwater dip first:


Followed by a bath in Acriflavine. All of the fish in the tank should get the bath, as it is an important step in treating brook. Only the symptomatic fish need the freshwater dip, though. Ruby reef rally and API Fungus Cure are both good sources of acriflavine.

After this the fish should be transferred to a clean QT. Don’t use anything from your display to set it up, to try to avoid transferring brook to the QT.

Then, you’ll need to dose General Cure. This has both the praziquantel (for black ich) and metronidazole (for brook). You’ll also need Metroplex (just metronidazole) for in between, and for 14 days total.

So Day 1- General Cure
Day 3- Metro
Day 5- Metro
Day 7- General Cure
Day 9- Metro
Day 11- Metro
Day 13- Metro
Day 15- water change and carbon

You should do a small water change before each dose. This will also help manage ammonia during treatment.

We can help you through each step if needed. I know it can be overwhelming dealing with multiple parasites at once :(

I thought it might be brooklynella but I wanted you to see it before I said anything

 

[ngoodermuth]

Here’s a couple of threads that might be helpful as well, regarding setting up the QT and the bath:

Acriflavine
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sh....php?threads/Acriflavine.282887/&share_type=t

Ammonia Control in a Hospital Tank
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sh...ntrol-in-a-Hospital-Tank.296119/&share_type=t

 

[Rmcuddy]

Oh man, well the foxface has black ich for sure... a freshwater dip to provide immediate relief, followed by prazipro or general cure dosed twice 5-7 days apart would be needed there.

But, the clown has brooklynella.

Treating both at the same time is going to be tricky, but it can be done.

All fish that share the tank will need treated for both, since parasites are transferable between tankmates. Both affected fish would benefit from a freshwater dip first:


Followed by a bath in Acriflavine. All of the fish in the tank should get the bath, as it is an important step in treating brook. Only the symptomatic fish need the freshwater dip, though. Ruby reef rally and API Fungus Cure are both good sources of acriflavine.

After this the fish should be transferred to a clean QT. Don’t use anything from your display to set it up, to try to avoid transferring brook to the QT.

Then, you’ll need to dose General Cure. This has both the praziquantel (for black ich) and metronidazole (for brook). You’ll also need Metroplex (just metronidazole) for in between, and for 14 days total.

So Day 1- General Cure
Day 3- Metro
Day 5- Metro
Day 7- General Cure
Day 9- Metro
Day 11- Metro
Day 13- Metro
Day 15- water change and carbon

You should do a small water change before each dose. This will also help manage ammonia during treatment.

We can help you through each step if needed. I know it can be overwhelming dealing with multiple parasites at once :(

I have a yellow tang, 2 clowns, a flame fairy wrasse, cardinalfish, foxface, midas blenny, lawnmower blenny, and a valentini puffer....I have to transfer these all to a QT? Also, I have several hermits, crabs, snails, and a cleaner shrimp...what about these? This sounds like a nightmare.

 

[Mjrenz]

It's not going to be fun but it's going to be an ongoing problem if you don't get rid of it. @ngoodermuth is the right person to help you through this

 

[Rmcuddy]

It's not going to be fun but it's going to be an ongoing problem if you don't get rid of it. @ngoodermuth is the right person to help you through this

So do I move all of my fish out of the DT and into a small QT for 2 weeks?

 

[Mjrenz]

So do I move all of my fish out of the DT and into a small QT for 2 weeks?

They're all going to need to be treated because they've all been exposed. If you have a large tank available to you they can all be treated together, definitely don't put them all in a small tank together because there won't be enough oxygen and ammonia build up will come quickly.

I'm actually experiencing a similar situation, I have a fluke problem and I'm going to have to catch all my fish between two tanks and put them in a hospital tank.

 

[Rmcuddy]

They're all going to need to be treated because they've all been exposed. If you have a large tank available to you they can all be treated together, definitely don't put them all in a small tank together because there won't be enough oxygen and ammonia build up will come quickly.

I'm actually experiencing a similar situation, I have a fluke problem and I'm going to have to catch all my fish between two tanks and put them in a hospital tank.

But if I treat them individually, and then throw them back in the DT, wont they just get re exposed to the disease?

 

[Mjrenz]

But if I treat them individually, and then throw them back in the DT, wont they just get re exposed to the disease?

You should be able to starve the parasites in your dt by leaving it fallow, @ngoodermuth will be able to tell you how long it will take

 

[Mjrenz]

Actually, here's the answer
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/fallow-periods-going-fishless.190324/

 

[ngoodermuth]

6 weeks fallow will cover both turbellarians and brooklynella