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So I posted something earlier talking about adding a sump onto my 30 gallon that has no overflow or returns drilled for it and I don’t really feel like drilling holes for them so I was just going to use an overflow box. I have now decided that maybe I could upgrade to a JBJ 45 gallon and tear the old 30 down and use all the water and live rock from that to seed the new tank and throw the 15 gallon of new water in. I have 2 clowns and a algae blenny so the bioload is very minimal. I don’t really see a problem with this but I would like more input than my own lol. Thanks! PS. The reason for moving the tank over is I think the HOB filter and refugium are an eye sore and I want something that looks cleaner.
 

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So I posted something earlier talking about adding a sump onto my 30 gallon that has no overflow or returns drilled for it and I don’t really feel like drilling holes for them so I was just going to use an overflow box. I have now decided that maybe I could upgrade to a JBJ 45 gallon and tear the old 30 down and use all the water and live rock from that to seed the new tank and throw the 15 gallon of new water in. I have 2 clowns and a algae blenny so the bioload is very minimal. I don’t really see a problem with this but I would like more input than my own lol. Thanks! PS. The reason for moving the tank over is I think the HOB filter and refugium are an eye sore and I want something that looks cleaner.

You'll be fine doing to this, and that's probably the better way to go anyway. Just be sure the water is ready to go, and up to temperature before moving everything over. Also, make sure to add some more live rock, bio-media, or both, to accommodate the greater water volume; I would also add a bottle of bacteria when you do this as well, just to get everything properly seeded, and buffer against any potential spikes.
 

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Are you planning to add any new rock ?
If you aren’t then you can go ahead and transfer everything. I would also suggest cleaning/rinsing the sand
 
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I haven’t decided yet. I have quiet a bit in the 30 maybe more than 30 pounds so it might be good but I also might add some
 

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the rinsing the sand can be the difference between life and death in the transfer, its of utmost importance to install literally zero cloud sand, even if you add some new to the old etc. its not the sand, its the detritus it carries. to move over any mud in the name of protecting bacteria is the biggest risk possible, though people do this commonly. the bacteria in the sandbed are not required, so you are allowed to not even use one instantly if you want to in the new or current tank
 

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I haven’t decided yet. I have quiet a bit in the 30 maybe more than 30 pounds so it might be good but I also might add some
If you do end up adding some cure it and then add it. Safest way to add new rock to a system
 
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So would your recommendation be just be buying new sand? I have a lot marine pure blocks in a HOB refugium I’ll move over and the live rock. The question now is the sand? New?
 

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in the very least fully rinsed in tap water, then saltwater that way its clear. I like to replace if $ allows, and of course pre rinse all the new sand too simply because old sand was in contact with phosphate waste for a while and some feel that calcium carbonate uptakes that waste for later. I do not know if that's true, but its pristine white nice looking lol. as crazy as all this sounds here's at least a ton of tanks currently applying it, we'd enjoy your pics and documentation to, skip cycle sand ripping work--->
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/t...ead-aka-one-against-many.230281/#post-2681445

the basic summary is that if you'll be thorough, and cloudless, the ripping the bed out or adding new/partials wont matter as long as its all rinsed. those marinepure blocks are massive surface area along with the live rock. the only systems we concern about messing with the bed are the ones using hardly any live rock....any cured rock in place/a few pounds/runs everything in reefing that's why its all really an illusion...we're never really lacking surface area.

all we do in that big thread is brainstorm ways they wont mix up the bad water with the delicate organisms.
 

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