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What do you mean it won't bleach sps. Chemiclean was introduced, everything turned off except return pump, lights and a gfo reactor to absorb phosphate released by any organics. First 24 hours was fine but next 12 everything bleached.Curious what was running at the time you introduced Chemiclean? It won't bleach SPS... something else happened.
The active ingredient appears to be erythromycin cetyl sulfate along with a surfactant.How exactly does the chemiclean work. clearly there is some misunderstanding.
Thanks brew. Here. You'll like this. Its where some of anecdotals n legend from this thread are from. I haven quite finished it.The active ingredient appears to be erythromycin cetyl sulfate along with a surfactant.
They claim it "Contains no phosphates, algacides or Erythromycin succinate. "
While this is true, it appears to be very deceptive.
That was very awesome. Thank you for showing that link it informed me a lot.FYI I was able to dig this up. Hopefully it is ok to link.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2453082
Thanks brew. Here. You'll like this. Its where some of anecdotals n legend from this thread are from. I haven quite finished it.
I love the simple fact that I finally chose to open up on this site that there's other people like me that have to learn the facts of a situation the pros and cons of the things that we use and what we use them for the simple fact that somebody can go back on this site with a question and be able to find more research that is a group worth working for. After spending the last hour reading all thirteen pages of this thread and watching the videos and reading the links on the chemiclean it is open my eyes and show me proof thank you very much for your dedication in making sure everybody has the correct information to make their own determination.This post pointed me in the right direction. I took the info from this and emailed a colleague of mine in Germany about this. He was able to confirm the active ingredients as they are required to be listed for all products sold in Germany. As is typical on the internet, I found many possible ingredients. I am fairly confident that this is correct as long as nothing was lost in translation.
thats why im here too.I love the simple fact that I finally chose to open up on this site that there's other people like me that have to learn the facts of a situation the pros and cons of the things that we use and what we use them for the simple fact that somebody can go back on this site with a question and be able to find more research that is a group worth working for. After spending the last hour reading all thirteen pages of this thread and watching the videos and reading the links on the chemiclean it is open my eyes and show me proof thank you very much for your dedication in making sure everybody has the correct information to make their own determination.
so what im getting is it acts more on gram negative bacteria, the common benificial are positive(i think i have thise righ) anyway it basically bursts the cell walls of the target baterial populations.As I believe I said earlier, I am a research junkie. I love knowledge.
That said, just because I found what I believe to be accurate ingredients I still can't figure out why so many people can use this product successfully and yet others have almost complete tank die offs. Some are clearly a lack of O2 yet cases like this, where the OP seems to have done everything right, there is still a systemic collapse.
I still can't help but feel that this is somehow tied to a toxin released by zoa's.... Just wish I could confirm.
please do. sooo sorry. ruff stuff.I appreciate everyone's input and help with this. I'll keep everyone posted with the recovery efdorts
, I am from the medical field and ordering a lot of drugs so my first case would go to the manufacturer as the manufacturer why we're having these instances versus those instances and then make that manufacture credible for their product and what's happening will give you an answer because they don't want anything to happen I've learned that I'm good at that. I want to know every if and or what when I am purchasing and the intent that I'm purchasing it for. 8 out of 10 times I will go to the manufacturer and you will be surprised the things that you can make happen and free stuffAs I believe I said earlier, I am a research junkie. I love knowledge.
That said, just because I found what I believe to be accurate ingredients I still can't figure out why so many people can use this product successfully and yet others have almost complete tank die offs. Some are clearly a lack of O2 yet cases like this, where the OP seems to have done everything right, there is still a systemic collapse.
I still can't help but feel that this is somehow tied to a toxin released by zoa's.... Just wish I could confirm.
I went over the links a few times. Why aren't we seeing the full breakdown of what chemiclean is? I see "it's shaped like this" and "It breaks down like this" but no list of compounds? Chemiclean states it's made with enzymes as well? None of that is shown to be explained? I have to be missing it?Thanks brew. Here. You'll like this. Its where some of anecdotals n legend from this thread are from. I haven quite finished it.
@reeferfoxx youll like this read too.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-2453082.html
I'm doing some research too but I'm going to go directly to the manufacturerI went over the links a few times. Why aren't we seeing the full breakdown of what chemiclean is? I see "it's shaped like this" and "It breaks down like this" but no list of compounds? Chemiclean states it's made with enzymes as well? None of that is shown to be explained? I have to be missing it?
On Boyd Enterprises website, they don't really specify which EM it doesn't contain. It just says no EM.I'm doing some research too but I'm going to go directly to the manufacturer