Chromis red spot

[jeffchapok]

I've saved chromis from uronema using Ruby Reef Rally. And it didn't have any discernable effects on my corals. Your water will be bright green for a few days, but it clears up.

Of course this didn't prevent the biggest one from eventually killing the other two several months later.

 

[haigyfish]

Close monitoring. Because it is untreatable and there is no fallow, pulling fish won’t make a difference.

Sorry to bother but do you think it is best to wait 1-2 weeks before I add a pair of clownfish in the tank since I am having this problem with this chromi?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hey y’all woke up today did my daily routine for the tank and I was going to feed my tank i saw one of my chromis back portion has a line of red almost. I zoomed in and got multiple pictures. Any idea what this can be from?
i do have a goby that nips at it when it comes close to its cave but nothing too over protective and attacking it.
And it’s only on one of them, I believe the female chromi.

Typical with chromis and damsels, you asked about treatment. You will want to get Quick Cure. If none, then Ruby rally Pro.
Best treatment choice is a 45 min formalin bath using Quick Cure then finished in a quarantine tank. Once in QT tank, treat and assure that the parasites have been eliminated. You can also soak food in metronidazole . . . Seachem Metroplex for 10-14 days.

 

[Sharkbait19]

Sorry to bother but do you think it is best to wait 1-2 weeks before I add a pair of clownfish in the tank since I am having this problem with this chromi?

Wouldn’t hurt just to make sure nothing else is amiss.
I would quarantine the clowns as well when you get them.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

The intercellular Uronema is not treatable using a bath - the protozoans are down in the muscles and bath medications cannot reach them. By the time you see the red lesion it is too late - sorry.

It also isn't super-contagious. In fact, you may see other chromis in the group develop it, but they were already carrying it when you got them. I've only had one apparent case where a parrotfish seems to have picked it up from some sick chromis.

That said, I always wait at least 14 days from when I last lost a fish before adding a new one. Since I always quarantine new fish, and since that takes 6+ weeks, I don't have to worry about that.

Jay

 

[haigyfish]

The intercellular Uronema is not treatable using a bath - the protozoans are down in the muscles and bath medications cannot reach them. By the time you see the red lesion it is too late - sorry.

It also isn't super-contagious. In fact, you may see other chromis in the group develop it, but they were already carrying it when you got them. I've only had one apparent case where a parrotfish seems to have picked it up from some sick chromis.

That said, I always wait at least 14 days from when I last lost a fish before adding a new one. Since I always quarantine new fish, and since that takes 6+ weeks, I don't have to worry about that.

Jay

Thank you with the knowledge. I am wondering if you would recommend metro to try and help kill the parasite within 14 days. This is my dt and is only 30 gallon. Any advice?

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Thank you with the knowledge. I am wondering if you would recommend metro to try and help kill the parasite within 14 days. This is my dt and is only 30 gallon. Any advice?

I wouldn’t use metronidazole in your display tank - the risk to other animals isn’t worth the slim chance of benefit for Uronema. Chloroquine has some benefit for external Uronema but it cannot be used in tanks with algae or invertebrates.
Jay

 

[haigyfish]

I wouldn’t use metronidazole in your display tank - the risk to other animals isn’t worth the slim chance of benefit for Uronema. Chloroquine has some benefit for external Uronema but it cannot be used in tanks with algae or invertebrates.
Jay

I have invertebrates so it looks like my
Only option is to closely monitor the chromis. I did a morning feed and they all are eating normal and the uronema looks the same as it did yesterday. Just waiting for this guy to pass so I can take
Him out and do a water change!

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I have invertebrates so it looks like my
Only option is to closely monitor the chromis. I did a morning feed and they all are eating normal and the uronema looks the same as it did yesterday. Just waiting for this guy to pass so I can take
Him out and do a water change!

If it survives, please let us know - it helps us to get feedback on these cases.
Jay

 

[haigyfish]

If it survives, please let us know - it helps us to get feedback on these cases.
Jay

The Lilttle guy is still alive and energetic, all other fish look normal and tank parameters remain stable. The redness did get a tad more dark but not too noticeable. Just worried about him fighting for too long and the potential off spreading the parasite

 

[Jay Hemdal]

The Lilttle guy is still alive and energetic, all other fish look normal and tank parameters remain stable. The redness did get a tad more dark but not too noticeable. Just worried about him fighting for too long and the potential off spreading the parasite

Spreading isn't really an issue, Uronema can be isolated from many marine tanks - the estimate runs it is present in > 25% of aquariums. It normally feeds on bacteria. Nobody know how/why it sometimes burrows into fish and starts living there, but it seems to be something related to the supply chain as virtually all cases are seen in newly acquired fish.

Jay

 

[haigyfish]

Spreading isn't really an issue, Uronema can be isolated from many marine tanks - the estimate runs it is present in > 25% of aquariums. It normally feeds on bacteria. Nobody know how/why it sometimes burrows into fish and starts living there, but it seems to be something related to the supply chain as virtually all cases are seen in newly acquired fish.

Jay

I will try to update with a picture later
But it now looks like the uronema is making his outside scales that are red look somewhat flakey in a way. He is still alive and eating and exploring normally

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I will try to update with a picture later
But it now looks like the uronema is making his outside scales that are red look somewhat flakey in a way. He is still alive and eating and exploring normally

I wonder if this is Uronema after all? Fish that develop visible lesions usually don't survive very long.


Jay

 

[haigyfish]

I wonder if this is Uronema after all? Fish that develop visible lesions usually don't survive very long.


Jay

I will update a picture once I get home from work. It has been 5 full days today will be the 6th.

 

[haigyfish]

I will update a picture once I get home from work. It has been 5 full days today will be the 6th.

I wonder if this is Uronema after all? Fish that develop visible lesions usually don't survive very long.


Jay

hello update with a piciture

thank you

 

[haigyfish]

Pict

Spreading isn't really an issue, Uronema can be isolated from many marine tanks - the estimate runs it is present in > 25% of aquariums. It normally feeds on bacteria. Nobody know how/why it sometimes burrows into fish and starts living there, but it seems to be something related to the supply chain as virtually all cases are seen in newly acquired fish.

Jay

Picture update

 

[Jay Hemdal]

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Picture update

That lesion sure looks like it is getting worse. The color looks less red than Uronema usually does.
To you have a treatment tank available? Although Uronema can’t be treated, if this is bacteria, maybe an antibiotic would help.
Jay

 

[haigyfish]

That lesion sure looks like it is getting worse. The color looks less red than Uronema usually does.
To you have a treatment tank available? Although Uronema can’t be treated, if this is bacteria, maybe an antibiotic would help.
Jay

Unfortunately I do not have a treatment tank available I only have one tank which is my DT and it’s 30 gallon. Any thoughts on how I can treat this or if I can

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Sorry, treating any issue like this in a DT with major drugs puts the other animals at risk, so I usually don't advise that. There are a number of purported "display tank" remedies out there, but in my experience, they work as tonics at best, and don't have good efficacy for major infections.

Jay

 

[haigyfish]

Sorry, treating any issue like this in a DT with major drugs puts the other animals at risk, so I usually don't advise that. There are a number of purported "display tank" remedies out there, but in my experience, they work as tonics at best, and don't have good efficacy for major infections.

Jay

Thank you for informing me I will take your advice! I guess I will just wait off on adding the clownfish until I can figure out what is going on or something happens with the chromi. Both chromis are doing well and are the most active in the tank!