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Has anyone ordered a clean up crew from blue zoo aquatics? I don't have the ability to quarantine inverts unfortunately. I know its rolling the dice but if you have ordered from them how was the quality? Id probably went with other vendors but almost none of them offer Saturday delivery expect blue zoo and I don't feel comfortable leaving inverts in the hot sun while im stuck at work.
 
Reefcleaners.org run fishless systems and great prices.
 
I can't really help, I've never purchased from Blue Zoo Aquatics. I started a thread a while back asking about a good place to buy CUC critters (since my go to Reef Cleaners.org discontinued shipping by USPS) and at least one reply suggested Blue Zoo Aquatics.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/best-place-to-buy-cuc-critter-right-now.1114771/
I ended up ordering from Reef Cleaners again even with their overnight shipping ($44 for me). Other replies to my thread included Saltwater Aquarium, ReefTopia, Seahorse Savvy, Reefs By Steele, Inverted Reef, Keys Reef, your local Petco and your local LFS.

Good luck!
 
I can't really help, I've never purchased from Blue Zoo Aquatics. I started a thread a while back asking about a good place to buy CUC critters (since my go to Reef Cleaners.org discontinued shipping by USPS) and at least one reply suggested Blue Zoo Aquatics.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/best-place-to-buy-cuc-critter-right-now.1114771/
I ended up ordering from Reef Cleaners again even with their overnight shipping ($44 for me). Other replies to my thread included Saltwater Aquarium, ReefTopia, Seahorse Savvy, Reefs By Steele, Inverted Reef, Keys Reef, your local Petco and your local LFS.

Good luck!
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I can't really help, I've never purchased from Blue Zoo Aquatics. I started a thread a while back asking about a good place to buy CUC critters (since my go to Reef Cleaners.org discontinued shipping by USPS) and at least one reply suggested Blue Zoo Aquatics.

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/best-place-to-buy-cuc-critter-right-now.1114771/
I ended up ordering from Reef Cleaners again even with their overnight shipping ($44 for me). Other replies to my thread included Saltwater Aquarium, ReefTopia, Seahorse Savvy, Reefs By Steele, Inverted Reef, Keys Reef, your local Petco and your local LFS.

Good luck!
Thanks for the response I'll probably try blue zoo. The Saturday option is convenient I'll just cross my fingers. I don't think I could setup a quarantine tank for 40 snails unfortunately l. I'll give them a scrub with a toothbrush and pray lol.
 
I'd be curious to hear your feedback from them if you do decide to order from them!
 
I'd be curious to hear your feedback from them if you do decide to order from them!
I'll let you know on Saturday! I ordered a mccosker flasher wrasse and about 32 inverts. Im going to quarantine the wrasse but not the snails. I'll let you know how they look when I receive them.
 
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Thanks for the response I'll probably try blue zoo. The Saturday option is convenient I'll just cross my fingers. I don't think I could setup a quarantine tank for 40 snails unfortunately l. I'll give them a scrub with a toothbrush and pray lol.
I personally take biosecurity quite seriously, and I do personally house my new snails and other inverts in a fallow (fish-less) tank for about 45 days before they go to other tank(s). However, I believe about 99.7% off all other reefers do not QT inverts, and like 99.9% of the time it's just fine. There's a chance your inverts may have a fish parasite, but it's not a high probability. Give them a scrub, roll the dice, and let us know how the order looks, I'm interested too. Do watch your fish for any signs of anything going on after you add your inverts so you can take action quickly, but I think you'll likely be fine 🙂

Good luck!
 
I personally take biosecurity quite seriously, and I do personally house my new snails and other inverts in a fallow (fish-less) tank for about 45 days before they go to other tank(s). However, I believe about 99.7% off all other reefers do not QT inverts, and like 99.9% of the time it's just fine. There's a chance your inverts may have a fish parasite, but it's not a high probability. Give them a scrub, roll the dice, and let us know how the order looks, I'm interested too. Do watch your fish for any signs of anything going on after you add your inverts so you can take action quickly, but I think you'll likely be fine 🙂

Good luck!
Thank you I have a 10gal i could setup for my inverts but I'm worried about trying to feed 32 inverts and not spiking ammonia in a fresh tank. I usually quarantine fish 1 at a time with copper power(which i know you cant use for snails)but im assuming the inverts will produce alot more waste then 1 fish. Also I would have to hope they would eat nori or pellets because it wouldn't have any algae I just feel like im not properly prepared to handle them. I'll definitely keep a eye out for disease!
 
Thank you I have a 10gal i could setup for my inverts but I'm worried about trying to feed 32 inverts and not spiking ammonia in a fresh tank. I usually quarantine fish 1 at a time with copper power(which i know you cant use for snails)but im assuming the inverts will produce alot more waste then 1 fish. Also I would have to hope they would eat nori or pellets because it wouldn't have any algae I just feel like im not properly prepared to handle them. I'll definitely keep a eye out for disease!
All valid points, and your choice not to QT the inverts will likely be just fine. Though if you wanted to try, I don't think inverts excrete nearly as much ammonia as fish would, though 32 of them is indeed a lot. Those animals are usually very hardy and can handle some ammonia. You can mitigate high ammonia in a QT tank with water changes, as well by using a bit of rock or cycled media from your main tank. They will indeed eat nori and pellets, and just about anything else.

I don't mean to freak you out, because the vast majority of reefers do not QT inverts and have zero problems, but it can happen. This thread came up just today, and after some back-and-fourth, it is looking (to me at least) like this could be a disease brought in by recently added CUC members. Just putting this out there so you have information to help guide you with this decision, again, I really think you'll likely be fine by not QT'ing the inverts. But please keep an eye on your fish for sure 🙂

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/72-hours-of-disaster.1123555/
 
All valid points, and your choice not to QT the inverts will likely be just fine. Though if you wanted to try, I don't think inverts excrete nearly as much ammonia as fish would, though 32 of them is indeed a lot. Those animals are usually very hardy and can handle some ammonia. You can mitigate high ammonia in a QT tank with water changes, as well by using a bit of rock or cycled media from your main tank. They will indeed eat nori and pellets, and just about anything else.

I don't mean to freak you out, because the vast majority of reefers do not QT inverts and have zero problems, but it can happen. This thread came up just today, and after some back-and-fourth, it is looking (to me at least) like this could be a disease brought in by recently added CUC members. Just putting this out there so you have information to help guide you with this decision, again, I really think you'll likely be fine by not QT'ing the inverts. But please keep an eye on your fish for sure 🙂

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/72-hours-of-disaster.1123555/
You think a 10gallon is enough to house them? I don't mind doing daily water changes (if needed). Unfortunately I don't have any spare rock ready to go and all my quarantine media has been exposed to copper. I mean I could go to petco and pick up like a 20gallon. Last question will they openly accept nori and pellets? I have two tiger sand conches coming but the rest are a mix of smaller snails. Sorry to be bugging you will all these questions. I can do more research tonight on this i have until Saturday to set it up.
 
You think a 10gallon is enough to house them? I don't mind doing daily water changes (if needed). Unfortunately I don't have any spare rock ready to go and all my quarantine media has been exposed to copper. I mean I could go to petco and pick up like a 20gallon. Last question will they openly accept nori and pellets? I have two tiger sand conches coming but the rest are a mix of smaller snails. Sorry to be bugging you will all these questions. I can do more research tonight on this i have until Saturday to set it up.
I'm quite happy to try and help you, so ask away! Just know that I am not an expert with QT or really anything else 🤪 I'm just telling you what I do, not that you need to do so as well. Again, most people are fine without QT'ing inverts.

What are you getting 32 of? A ten gallon might be OK, I would think a 20 gallon would do it for sure (I'm assuming you're getting an assortment of snails and hermits, etc.). You could also use something like a plastic Rubbermaid storage tote.
 
I'm quite happy to try and help you, so ask away! Just know that I am not an expert with QT or really anything else 🤪 I'm just telling you what I do, not that you need to do so as well. Again, most people are fine without QT'ing inverts.

What are you getting 32 of? A ten gallon might be OK, I would think a 20 gallon would do it for sure (I'm assuming you're getting an assortment of snails and hermits, etc.). You could also use something like a plastic Rubbermaid storage tote.
This is my entire list no hermits
- Astraea Snail (Astraea tecta), – Qty: 10
- Cerith Snail (Cerithium spp.), – Qty: 5
- Tonga Fighting Conch (Strombus gibberulus), Qty: 1
- Turbo Snail (Turbo fluctuosa), – Qty: 4
- Nerite Snail (Nerita spp.), – Qty: 5
- Tiger Sand Conch (Strombus spp.), Qty: 1
- Indo Nassarius Snail (Nassarius spp.), Qty: 5

Do the Rubbermaid totes come with lids or have them available to buy? Would i need to put holes into the lid?
 
This is my entire list no hermits
- Astraea Snail (Astraea tecta), – Qty: 10
- Cerith Snail (Cerithium spp.), – Qty: 5
- Tonga Fighting Conch (Strombus gibberulus), Qty: 1
- Turbo Snail (Turbo fluctuosa), – Qty: 4
- Nerite Snail (Nerita spp.), – Qty: 5
- Tiger Sand Conch (Strombus spp.), Qty: 1
- Indo Nassarius Snail (Nassarius spp.), Qty: 5

Do the Rubbermaid totes come with lids or have them available to buy? Would i need to put holes into the lid?
To me, that looks like a solid list, and I think you're ten gallon would probably work 🙂 But if you wanted to use tote, they typically do come with a lid. I'd open the lid a time or two a day, or drill some holes in it for air flow. No need to light an invert tank.

The only thing I'm not sure about is if the Conchs will need some sand to do well. I do know that Nassarious snails don't require sand, I have some in a bare bottom tank, and I know others do too.I do think you could offer them algae wafers, nori, and even some pellets for the carnivores.
 
To me, that looks like a solid list, and I think you're ten gallon would probably work 🙂 But if you wanted to use tote, they typically do come with a lid. I'd open the lid a time or two a day, or drill some holes in it for air flow. No need to light an invert tank.

The only thing I'm not sure about is if the Conchs will need some sand to do well. I do know that Nassarious snails don't require sand, I have some in a bare bottom tank, and I know others do too.I do think you could offer them algae wafers, nori, and even some pellets for the carnivores.
Oh good news I have like two unopened bags of spare sand! I think maybe a tote or 20gal would be better so they have more space(if that even matters). My only concern now would be feeding enough and not spiking ammonia. I don't have experience feeding snails so I'll have to look into it and see how much they truly need to avoid overfeeding them and messing up my water parameters.
 
Oh good news I have like two unopened bags of spare sand! I think maybe a tote or 20gal would be better so they have more space(if that even matters). My only concern now would be feeding enough and not spiking ammonia. I don't have experience feeding snails so I'll have to look into it and see how much they truly need to avoid overfeeding them and messing up my water parameters.
More room would be better, it would help keep ammonia in check too, but I don't think you'll have a big problem. Inverts don't excrete as much ammonia as fish do, but they will produce some. I think you'll need something to keep the water circulating too, which would be as simple as an air pump and air stone, but you need something for good gas exchange. I don't even know if you have to heat this tank if it's in a room at like 72 F or so. Many of these snails actually like slightly cooler water than where we typically run our reef tanks, and they live longer at the lower temps. If you have a heater, that may be best though.
 
More room would be better, it would help keep ammonia in check too, but I don't think you'll have a big problem. Inverts don't excrete as much ammonia as fish do, but they will produce some. I think you'll need something to keep the water circulating too, which would be as simple as an air pump and air stone, but you need something for good gas exchange. I don't even know if you have to heat this tank if it's in a room at like 72 F or so. Many of these snails actually like slightly cooler water than where we typically run our reef tanks, and they live longer at the lower temps. If you have a heater, that may be best though.
I have a spare heater and i can put a powerhead or airstone in there too. I think I should probably set this up so im basically future proof and I'd be pretty sad if I killed my fish by adding a infected invert. After this I'll just need a coral quarantine tank and I'll be golden lol. Thanks so much man I appreciate all the information you gave me 😃.
 
I have a spare heater and i can put a powerhead or airstone in there too. I think I should probably set this up so im basically future proof and I'd be pretty sad if I killed my fish by adding a infected invert. After this I'll just need a coral quarantine tank and I'll be golden lol. Thanks so much man I appreciate all the information you gave me 😃.
That sounds like a good plan! Good luck!
 
ive ordered from them in the past for other livestock and had great luck with them. But that was over 10 years ago.
 

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