HahahajahahhaUse H2O2?
Bc Billy May's said so from the grave
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HahahajahahhaUse H2O2?
Bc Billy May's said so from the grave
But it’s food grade hydrogen peroxide...Not overly, I’d never add h202 in my tank. It has fillers, it’s not just oxygen and hydrogen.
I’m no @Randy Holmes-Farley but I think the percentages are based on water to oxygen levels. So 3% has the most water in itSee this thread -
Does not make sense to me that tin would seep thru a RO membrane but not other substances which are smaller. Most h202 contains tin. I am unaware of a h202 product only containing oxygen and hydrogen. Maybe buying 100% and cutting it yourself.Tin in Icp test
Just had my 6 monthly icp test and I seem to have high Tin levels. Anyone seen this before and what may cause this? https://www.triton-lab.de/en/showroom/icp-oes/114554www.reef2reef.com
I wanted it to be an open discussion, I just don’t think we understand the long term effects. I was under the impression that food grade things were food grade safe for humans, not animals/plants/corals in all cases.But it’s food grade hydrogen peroxide...
Would be very curious of Randy’s thoughts on all of this. I’m no chemist by any means just what I observe after a long time in the hobby. H202 was not a thing associated with reef tanks a few years ago, and I’ve yet to seen anyone truly benefit from it over a long period.I’m no @Randy Holmes-Farley but I think the percentages are based on water to oxygen levels. So 3% has the most water in it
The benefits have long been reported by both myself @Lasse and many others esp on the Oxydator user group on Facebook of which there are many.I can't say i have ever directly dosed H2O2 to my systems but i have used the 3% solution for direct algae control on frags. I pull the frag from the tank and use a small soft bristle paint brush and "paint" the H2O2 on the algae. Let it sit for a min or two, rinse and back in it goes, Algae gone the next day!
I do however use H2O2 in another way. I use Oxydators on my systems for the various benefits i believe they bring to the table. I use food grade 35% H2O2 and dilute it down to about 7% using RODI. That gets added to the oxydator with 1-2 catalysts.
@atoll and @Lasse may give more insight on using H2O2?
You say so - what´s the hard fact behind? Can you back up this statement? Which concentrations? How much? Where does the tin in H2O2 come from? Can there be tin free H2O2 as well?Most h202 contains tin
Most, if not all Hydrogen Peroxide found at the store contains stabilizers, tin is commonly used as a stabilizer but there are others as well. I have no idea what the concentrations are, read about h2o2 stabilizers if you'd like to know more about the commonly used ones. If one was able to find a diluted h2o2 solution without any stabilizers, that would not contain tin.You say so - what´s the hard fact behind? Can you back up this statement? Which concentrations? How much? Where does the tin in H2O2 come from? Can there be tin free H2O2 as well?
Sincerely Lasse
Does food grade hydrogen peroxide contain stabalisers?Most, if not all Hydrogen Peroxide found at the store contains stabilizers, tin is commonly used as a stabilizer but there are others as well. I have no idea what the concentrations are, read about h2o2 stabilizers if you'd like to know more about the commonly used ones. If one was able to find a diluted h2o2 solution without any stabilizers, that would not contain tin.
No, food grade should not contain any stabilizers.Does food grade hydrogen peroxide contain stabalisers?
Correct as above. We only ever recommend food grade. I was editing my post to ensure the wrong alarmist information is nipped in the bud. Food grade is what is always recommended with any chemical, if its available, we might add to.our tanks.No, food grade should not contain any stabilizers.
Right, my point was that most people buy hydrogen peroxide at the store, and most stores do not sell food grade.Correct as above. We only ever recommend food grade. I was editing my post to ensure the wrong alarmist information is nipped in the bud. Food grade is what is always recommended with any chemical, if its available, we might add to.our tanks.
You used a blanket statement of peroxide contains tin which is misleading when in fact there is simply no need to buy peroxide with tin in it. As you are now aware not all peroxide has tin it. Would have been better if you had differentiated between the two or were you unaware that food grade contains nothing but peroxide and no tin untill you were informed?Right, my point was that most people buy hydrogen peroxide at the store, and most stores do not sell food grade.
I am not scaremongering... I am sure you are aware that most of the people adding hydrogen peroxide to their tanks to treat things like dinos are not buying food grade.
I did not see your edit before responding to your post. I rarely see food grade hydrogen peroxide being suggested on most threads.You used a blanket statement of peroxide contains tin which is misleading when in fact there is simply no need to buy peroxide with tin in it. As you are now aware not all peroxide has tin it. Would have been better if you had differentiated between the two or were you unaware that food grade contains nothing but peroxide and no tin untill you were informed?
Reefers in Europe seem to know to use food grade peroxide. Not sure why that's not the case in the US. Food grade isn't difficult to obtain here at all you can even buy it off eBay and Amazon even Anyway to anybody reading this buy food grade peroxide and you will be fine with no fear of tin or anyother heavy metals in it.
Interesting Randi. However, and as you are aware there is much peroxide may act with perhaps having less affect on the likes of iron. While peroxide is reacting to organics in our water for instance. I dose iron now and again but not often. I even use your formula to make it myself, thanks for that. I guess it might be a question as to what peroxide reacts to first before it breaks down completely and then to reacts with iron do you think?FWIW, folks should recognize that hydrogen peroxide can do more than just decompose into O2 and H2O. Specifically, it can alter the forms of trace elements present.
Apparently, for example, hydrogen peroxide can reduce cupric ion (Cu++, the normal form in seawater) to cuprous ion (Cu+) and can oxidize ferrous ion (Fe++) to ferric ion (Fe+++).