Rmckoy
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Use a seneye ! That’s the only way .
and you never have to see what one looks like to preach the importance of using one
Cycling Question.
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and you never have to see what one looks like to preach the importance of using one
And you must calibrate it to read what you think it should read, lol
Rmckoy
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I wouldn’t have the slightest clue . I don’t own one
a constructive way to finish out this thread would be pics of the system with fish in it, when you're ready.
we have the before pic showing clear surface area details and timing
we have your reports of diatoms showing up (benthic succession we can see is a sign of being cycled, no tank that has had water long enough and nutrients + light to grow diatoms or cyano or algae is uncycled, the filter bac set up long before benthics we can see)
then one more pic with fish in a few days will shore up any cycle doubts.
*watch out for acclimation errors. In Jay's disease forum he's discussing lately a *lot* of stressed new fish held in 1.018 water at an lfs then dumped into a display at .025/harm
we also have folks who do two hours bag floating (ammonia in the bag isn't a tank cycle stressor its an ammonia burning fish in the bag stressor to avoid) and then they also do the large salinity jump
take your own salinity tester to assess salt levels where you buy fish, if its super low, don't buy from there. buy fish from similar salinity and just add them in via netting. if you can find pre quarantined clowns/ you're set.
the chief way we track cycle outcomes in new cycling science is the simple test: does the tank carry life or does it all crash and die in 48 hours like an uncycled tank would do. going off the patterns others do in cycles like these, it's safe to add your fish now.
*cycles cannot be starved. if you aren't adding fish a while then just let it sit, don't be throwing feed in it to feed algae. water is what keeps a cycle locked in, they aren't dependent on us to feed them. water bacteria were adapted for the jobs long before we showed up
your tank will just sit however many weeks you want to wait to add fish and when you add them, the cycle is the same ability that it is right now. that mix you added had tons of organics in it; permanent bac feed for your tank wedged in all the crevices at the microbial level + natural inputs from the home = no reef tank cycle can ever starve. that's something made up in web forums, like so many cycling rules and advices.
we have the before pic showing clear surface area details and timing
we have your reports of diatoms showing up (benthic succession we can see is a sign of being cycled, no tank that has had water long enough and nutrients + light to grow diatoms or cyano or algae is uncycled, the filter bac set up long before benthics we can see)
then one more pic with fish in a few days will shore up any cycle doubts.
*watch out for acclimation errors. In Jay's disease forum he's discussing lately a *lot* of stressed new fish held in 1.018 water at an lfs then dumped into a display at .025/harm
we also have folks who do two hours bag floating (ammonia in the bag isn't a tank cycle stressor its an ammonia burning fish in the bag stressor to avoid) and then they also do the large salinity jump
take your own salinity tester to assess salt levels where you buy fish, if its super low, don't buy from there. buy fish from similar salinity and just add them in via netting. if you can find pre quarantined clowns/ you're set.
the chief way we track cycle outcomes in new cycling science is the simple test: does the tank carry life or does it all crash and die in 48 hours like an uncycled tank would do. going off the patterns others do in cycles like these, it's safe to add your fish now.
*cycles cannot be starved. if you aren't adding fish a while then just let it sit, don't be throwing feed in it to feed algae. water is what keeps a cycle locked in, they aren't dependent on us to feed them. water bacteria were adapted for the jobs long before we showed up
your tank will just sit however many weeks you want to wait to add fish and when you add them, the cycle is the same ability that it is right now. that mix you added had tons of organics in it; permanent bac feed for your tank wedged in all the crevices at the microbial level + natural inputs from the home = no reef tank cycle can ever starve. that's something made up in web forums, like so many cycling rules and advices.
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Rmckoy
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If a tank is started with nitrifying bacteria but never sees any fish or source of ammonia
How long can the tank remain cycled ?
Will the system eventually run out of bacteria where adding any small source of ammonia will cause an ammonia spike or “reboot the nitrogen cycle “?
A tank without fish doesn’t need to be cycled.
I do find it interesting that coral communities should/ May have a community of bacteria/microorganisms that they interact with among the web of natural reef communities in the wild that could be empty on a dry rock communities
I do find it interesting that coral communities should/ May have a community of bacteria/microorganisms that they interact with among the web of natural reef communities in the wild that could be empty on a dry rock communities
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