Designing the Perfect Small AIO. Post your feature request, or wish list & let's build it!

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The 7.5 during leak test with an AI Prime 16HD on it.

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I may have missed it earlier but if not I’d love to see a peninsula AIO kit for a Aqueon 20L with at least 4 inches of depth. Got one sitting in my garage just begging to be set up.
Please post some dimensions. We can do this.
 

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Leak test?? Seriously though. Looks sweet.
I once had a 10 gallon split a seam after about 5 days so any tank I buy, I let sit someplace that won't get too water damaged for at least a week with tap water in it before I drain it and set it up. The reason for the shot was to show that the AI Prime 16HD fits it very well and I'm sure the Kessil A80 or A160 would as well. I'm getting the bulkhead elbow sometime tomorrow so I will be fitting up the tank basics probably Saturday. I'm not really sure what I'm going to put in it yet so I probably won't start a build thread for a while but I won't keep cluttering this thread with my shots. I just wanted others to see how it looks with a mainstream light on it. My wife really likes it so...
 

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Please post some dimensions. We can do this.

20 long was a set of dimensions I posted. Something 12" across and 11-11.5" tall should work. Round the bottom edge to account for silicone obstruction.
 
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A few more thoughts - given the natural competition this tank would be the NUVO IM Fusion 10 and Cube 10 (both by size and price) ... you'll want some major differentiating features to separate from the rest. While being acrylic does make it unique, it might not be enough to break into the market where glass is more mainstream.

A common complaint I've always held for these small AIOs (I've owned 2 Nuvo 10s, a Nuvo 20 and now upgraded to Waterbox 100.3) is that the sump area is horribly small. I can't ever clean the back compartment because my hand physically doesn't fit lol. Also, the Nuvos have this weird bottom pocket in the sump that's unreachable. I like this tank because it would be the only option on the market (aside from custom) that would remediate this issue.
good thoughts, I think small nanos are nearly always over-engineered in the back.

make a tank with a filter sock drain, leave the rest open enough to accommodate a small skimmer and return pump/heater and leave it at that. IME a desktop nano doesn't need 3 chambers, just 2.

design a desktop to work with popular nano skimmers like a Tunze 9001 and you're gonna make people happy
 

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Is this the 10x10 or 12x12
Well, I'm actually a little confused on what I got. I ordered one of the first run (I think they were listed as 7 gallon and 4 gallon at the time) 7.5 gallon tanks which I thought was supposed to be 12 x 12 x 12. The outside dimensions are 10 x 10 x 10 which I thought was the smaller (4 gallon) size but...

I just went back and checked my invoice. I guess I got the wrong tank. It does say 12 x 12 x 12 on my invoice.
 

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This link goes to a full “box” AIO insert. For a peninsula you wouldn’t need the sides, just the filter wall and the two baffles so the wall would need to be a little wider than 10”. My Aqueon 20L is 11 3/4 wide (inside dims) x 10 3/4 high to the bottom of the top plastic trim. You could do the same design for a 40b and a 75 but with 5 or 6 inch wide baffles to provide room for bigger skimmers,etc…. and to be able to get a hand inside for cleaning since those are taller tanks.
 
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This link goes to a full “box” AIO insert. For a peninsula you wouldn’t need the sides, just the filter wall and the two baffles so the wall would need to be a little wider than 10”. My Aqueon 20L is 11 3/4 wide (inside dims) x 10 3/4 high to the bottom of the top plastic trim. You could do the same design for a 40b and a 75 but with 5 or 6 inch wide baffles to provide room for bigger skimmers,etc…. and to be able to get a hand inside for cleaning since those are taller tanks.
You are describing a coast to coast correct? Our inserts can be installed 5 ways but not coast to coast. The reason we did this is because ACTUAL glass tank dims are all over the place and we have had disappointed customers with our baffle kits when they find out their tank is out of spec.
 

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You are describing a coast to coast correct? Our inserts can be installed 5 ways but not coast to coast. The reason we did this is because ACTUAL glass tank dims are all over the place and we have had disappointed customers with our baffle kits when they find out their tank is out of spec.
If by coast to coast you mean that the filter wall spans the entire short side of the tank then yes. Excuse my very rudimentary drawing skills but it would look something like this. Same design as the one in the link but without the two side pieces.
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If this is not something that could be mass produced due to tank size variances could you do a single one to spec? If so how much would that be?
 
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Well, I'm actually a little confused on what I got. I ordered one of the first run (I think they were listed as 7 gallon and 4 gallon at the time) 7.5 gallon tanks which I thought was supposed to be 12 x 12 x 12. The outside dimensions are 10 x 10 x 10 which I thought was the smaller (4 gallon) size but...

I just went back and checked my invoice. I guess I got the wrong tank. It does say 12 x 12 x 12 on my invoice.

Mine arrived today, just finished unpacking it, first thing I did was check the size.. mine was correct!
 

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Well packed and protected. No scratches or buffs on my unit. The stickers are a great touch! I love my sticker collection for some odd reason. Overall seems very nice quality build. The only sub-par looking piece is one of the back baffles, all other seams appear to be fully welded with no bubbles.

now to get some pieces and parts!
 

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Well packed and protected. No scratches or buffs on my unit. The stickers are a great touch! I love my sticker collection for some odd reason. Overall seems very nice quality build. The only sub-par looking piece is one of the back baffles, all other seams appear to be fully welded with no bubbles.

now to get some pieces and parts!
That looks great. I feel kind of dumb. I kept looking at mine and thinking "boy I thought it would be a little bigger than this." My wife said it was 'cute' but what was I going to put in such a tiny tank. I knew it was 10 x10 x10 obviously but there were so many discussions about tank sizes in the thread I just figured I was remembering wrong. If it wasn't for @5G Reefer 's question I would have been making up 7 gallons of salt to throw in it.

Guess I need to talk to Tenecor to figure out what to do about it.
 

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Did you find an adapter yet @tharbin?
I ended up ordering the Lifegard 1/2" kit through Premium Aquatics the other day. It was like $6.99 or something similar. It had the elbow that I need and a slip-fit strainer and 1/2" double-slip bulkhead that I figure is good to have around. When I thought about gas mileage, it was cheaper than driving to the nearest Grainger. It is supposed to arrive later today.
 
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