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The nitrates are around 10 and I just tested phosphates and there at completely 0 what do I do to raise the phosphate and why is it so low is the gha taking it all?
 

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The nitrates are around 10 and I just tested phosphates and there at completely 0 what do I do to raise the phosphate and why is it so low is the gha taking it all?
Exactly that. The GHA is fueled on both Nitrates and Phosphates, and I think the last time when you took the rock out, it killed the bacteria, causing a nutrient spike which is now feeding the algae. You can either dose phosphates or feed a bit more to raise them, but this will also increase food for the algae. Same concept of refugium, people use algae to "suck up" the nutrients in the tank. I would recommend using a product like Dr. Tims or Microbacter 7 to first replenish your beneficial bacteria, stay on top with removal of the GHA to prevent it from sucking up all your nutrients (depending on how much the hermit and urchin eat), and dose phosphates or feed a little more. The thing is is that here you'll have to really stay on top of algae removal or else the GHA will just be being fed more. I would recommend and urchin to go along with the hermits to really beat the algae down while being able to keep raised nutrients to prevent dinos. Good luck!

Also, make sure not to dose or feed too much, as the hermits and urchin will increase your bioload a decent amount already.
 
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Okay what levels of nitrate and phosphate do you want me to keep it at to throughly get rid of this algae forever
The algae won't go away based off of nutrients, it's more about the CUC. The nutrient levels are more about preventing dinos and maintaining stability, but an ideal range for phosphates is around 0.02-0.06, and for nitrates i'd say 5-10, your current nitrates are good.
 
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The algae won't go away based off of nutrients, it's more about the CUC. The nutrient levels are more about preventing dinos and maintaining stability, but an ideal range for phosphates is around 0.02-0.06, and for nitrates i'd say 5-10, your current nitrates are good.
Okay awesome time to get to work on this stuff
 
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Wishing you best of luck
The tank seems to be doing fairly well I started dosing the neophos and neonitro and microbacter7 and once I started doing that plus feeding and changing my lighting a bit and turning my flow up it seems to be under control now and my nitrates raised pretty high to about 20 so I just started dosing half of my normal dose of microbacter7 and not doing neonitro but I doubled dosing of neophos because I couldn’t even get it to 0.1ppm is all of this okay!?
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The tank seems to be doing fairly well I started dosing the neophos and neonitro and microbacter7 and once I started doing that plus feeding and changing my lighting a bit and turning my flow up it seems to be under control now and my nitrates raised pretty high to about 20 so I just started dosing half of my normal dose of microbacter7 and not doing neonitro but I doubled dosing of neophos because I couldn’t even get it to 0.1ppm is all of this okay!?
Plus the urchin!
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Yeah, it seems to be much better than it was before. I would keep going with the phosphate dosing and see if it raises after a week or two as it can take some time for everything to stabilize and for the phos to raise. Glad to see the tank is doing well!
 
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Yeah, it seems to be much better than it was before. I would keep going with the phosphate dosing and see if it raises after a week or two as it can take some time for everything to stabilize and for the phos to raise. Glad to see the tank is doing well!
Okay should I stay dosing the double dose of phosphate or no because i need to go slow and is it good that I stopped with the neonitro and just microbacter7
 
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Do you guys think I really should get another wave maker of no because I turned up my hygger one and it seems to be enough?
 

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Okay should I stay dosing the double dose of phosphate or no because i need to go slow and is it good that I stopped with the neonitro and just microbacter7
I would say double dosing is fine but it might take a while to see any increases. The phosphate is also getting eaten up by the bacteria and GHA, which is probably causing it so stay low. It's good that you stopped with neonitro just make sure nitrates don't get too low. I would say keep doing microbacter to help replenish that bacteria you lost for a bit.
 
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Okay so keep double dosing neophos and stay with the half dose of microbacter7 for the beneficial bacteria and the clean up crews doing amazing and I’m getting rid of my yellow striped blend and adding a lawnmower blend for the hair algae and how long does the algae have to be under control for me to stop dosing neophos and microbacter7? And I was wondering is it okay if I add a frag rock that is magnetic to the aquarium or will it imbalance some things because I’m thinking of putting Xenia or mushrooms on it?
 

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Okay so keep double dosing neophos and stay with the half dose of microbacter7 for the beneficial bacteria and the clean up crews doing amazing and I’m getting rid of my yellow striped blend and adding a lawnmower blend for the hair algae and how long does the algae have to be under control for me to stop dosing neophos and microbacter7? And I was wondering is it okay if I add a frag rock that is magnetic to the aquarium or will it imbalance some things because I’m thinking of putting Xenia or mushrooms on it?
Yes, exactly. I would be a bit cautious about adding more cuc now, as you wanna leave enough food for the urchin and the blenny and the hermits. If it's really bad go ahead but if it's starting to go away I would be a bit hesitant with adding more cuc. It should be fine with the frag rock but I would hesitate on putting in Xenia as it can takeover pretty quickly and is a slimy pain to remove. Other than that, it should be all good.
 
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Why would someone dose more phosphate if the gha is eating it all wouldn’t it make it grow faster?! And I’m just trying to make sure it stays away with the cuc
 
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how long does the algae have to be under control for me to stop dosing neophos and microbacter7?
 

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Why would someone dose more phosphate if the gha is eating it all wouldn’t it make it grow faster?! And I’m just trying to make sure it stays away with the cuc
To make sure that the levels don't bottom out. When they bottom out it can cause dinos which would be far more worse than the algae. And yes it would make it consume more but the idea is that you wanna hit it with the CUC before it gets a chance to establish fast enough and suck up all your phosphates, the dosing is just to prevent dinos in the process.
 

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how long does the algae have to be under control for me to stop dosing neophos and microbacter7?
As for the neophos I would say until you can manage a relatively stable phosphate level and for the microbacter i would say a few more weeks.
 

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