Dino's or something else

[Vaughn17]

I don't mean to contradict. But dinos come in multiple colors. As the Does cyano. Multiple tanks that I've known with excessively low nutrients, that is unmeasurable phosphate and nitrate still carry and have issues with dinos.When I had dinos I tried every accepted cure there is to no avail. The only thing that made it go away was Excessive Removal. Siphoning it out every 20 to 30 minutes for about 3 weeks before it stopped returning

I know that cyano and dinos come in numerous colors and forms. The small amounts of reddish brown stuff on some of my corals and rock looked like cyano (thru a magnifying glass). However, my QT tank has dark brown stuff that I originally thought was just brown algae but the snails and fish won't touch it, then I realized it is parasitic so it's probably a species of dino, too. It looks similar to cyano from a distance but not close up. Definitely different from the stuff I had identified as cyano. But I could be wrong, absolutely.

My point about dosing nitrates, which killed the snotty brown dinos in my tank, is that natural sea water has much higher concentrations of nitrates than phosphates, assuming the sample isn't taken in a polluted nearshore area. My sps tank had virtually no nitrates and no or extremely low phosphates (less than 0.03) because they were being used up by dinos. So compared to natural sea water, the nutrient levels in my tank were way out of balance. When I started dosing nitrate, IMO, the corals were then able to outcompete the dinos. Or maybe dinos just don't thrive with higher nitrate levels, although I only raised my nitrates to approx. 2ppm.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

I know that cyano and dinos come in numerous colors and forms. The small amounts of reddish brown stuff on some of my corals and rock looked like cyano (thru a magnifying glass). However, my QT tank has dark brown stuff that I originally thought was just brown algae but the snails and fish won't touch it, then I realized it is parasitic so it's probably a species of dino, too. It looks similar to cyano from a distance but not close up. Definitely different from the stuff I had identified as cyano. But I could be wrong, absolutely.

My point about dosing nitrates, which killed the snotty brown dinos in my tank, is that natural sea water has much higher concentrations of nitrates than phosphates, assuming the sample isn't taken in a polluted nearshore area. My sps tank had virtually no nitrates and no or extremely low phosphates (less than 0.03) because they were being used up by dinos. So compared to natural sea water, the nutrient levels in my tank were way out of balance. When I started dosing nitrate, IMO, the corals were then able to outcompete the dinos. Or maybe dinos just don't thrive with higher nitrate levels, although I only raised my nitrates to approx. 2ppm.

interesting observation. I am pretty sure I have never had dinos def not in plague proportions that is. I use natural sea water almost exclusively. Scripps research water. Irony that the locals are really paranoid about doing it.

 

[Vaughn17]

Is the sea water you use treated at all?

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

no. they use a settling tank then sand filter. If you google Scripps Oceanographic peir water. Youll find the process. It seems completely opposite reefkeepers thinking. But its what is pumped into the Birch aquarium and the scripps labs. And is sold to food stores for fish and lobster. it is the pacific so its cold water.
I subscribe to the diverse healthy bacteria ideology ans well. Pretty sure its where I get the good plankton to keep my hitchiker clams and mussels alive too.
Makes the dino question very interesting to me. Do I have a resistance to it? or do I have stuff that ate it.
check out the video.
https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/live-mysis-shrimp-in-a-display-tank.237303/#post-2774438

 

[Vaughn17]

The Seattle Aquarium uses water from Elliot Bay (Puget Sound) but they run it through several filters, at least they used to. PS is brackish, but the water inlet line was in deep water. As for your lack of dinos, I think zooplankton eat it. However, there's approx. 1500 to 2200 species of marine dinos, so identifying the types in our tanks and what they eat, might be a little tricky, lol.

 

[saltyfilmfolks]

The Seattle Aquarium uses water from Elliot Bay (Puget Sound) but they run it through several filters, at least they used to. PS is brackish, but the water inlet line was in deep water. As for your lack of dinos, I think zooplankton eat it. However, there's approx. 1500 to 2200 species of marine dinos, so identifying the types in our tanks and what they eat, might be a little tricky, lol.

similar filters. And yes I get the zooplankton too.

 

[Laker32]

I'm not sure what OP's outcome was, but from his posted pics, I'm dealing with a similiar issue.

Did you ever figure your algae issue out? I'm having this same problem. It looks like clear bubbles on strings attaching to my zoas mainly. They seem to build up by the end of the day and then they are gone by morning. It's been a daily cycle and annoying as hell. The stringy algae(maroon in color) builds around my leather, but by morning, only reminiscents of the algae is left on the leather when closed for the night. I know I need to provide a lot more info to get the proper help.

 

[shoelaceike]

I still don't know what it is.....its very minimal but still shows up in a few places.....I did a 1 day and a 2 day blackout and decreased my lighting schedule...... Right now I see a strand here or there but nothing on the SB or rocks.....I believe when I add fresh SW it gets worse which makes me think it is Dino's. At this moment you have to look really hard to see any.

On another note, all my fish have been fine and I have seen them eating it. I had at least one dead snail but that could happen for a lot of reasons.

 

[Laker32]

I tried a 2 1/2 day black out, but it's still present. I also don't see it on any of my rocks and it's not effecting my fish or snails. I even seen stringy bubbles attached to a snail one day, so it must not be toxic. It's only on my corals for the most part. A few of my zoas are bothered by it, but for the most part, they are not affected and growing well. I only have a 24 gal, so it's easy to spot. I may try turning down my Kessil and see if it makes a difference.

 

[shoelaceike]

Post a pic.