Do reef tanks really need a filter...?

Ashish Patel

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 9, 2017
Messages
3,416
Reaction score
2,604
Location
Marlboro NJ
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Depends on your budget.. I've used $40 hang on skimmers and if they didn't product enough bubbles i just ran a air pump to the intake to create more bubbles and worked like a charm. What kind of price range you thinking?
 
OP
OP
Malifry97

Malifry97

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Oct 7, 2019
Messages
2,015
Reaction score
2,039
Location
Duncannon,PA
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
How are you going to keep salinity stable - How are you going to deal with topoff?
Top off in morning and evening and throughout the day (I or someone else is home everyday)
Yes, You will NEED a filter. Filters help with oxygenation, nutrient export, and cleaning the water. A lot of people resort to hob filters. Each to their own. I would never use a hob filter for a reef tank. Ato and dosers each have their places in a filter. If you insist in a hob skimmer, I recommend aquamaxx
ok thanks...oxygenation is taken care of by wave makers though.
 

Ashish Patel

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Feb 9, 2017
Messages
3,416
Reaction score
2,604
Location
Marlboro NJ
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
How large is your tank? For a smaller tank I prefer Danner Skilter filter, Mainy because i used it from 2000 to 2005 on a heaviy stocked 55 gallon tank. It never had good reviews but at the time it was $45 and those air bubble in tank skimmers never worked well for me

Amazon product
 

Quietman

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
May 14, 2017
Messages
3,533
Reaction score
11,031
Location
Indiana - born and bred
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
No...but it's all a trade-off. Some tanks run very little if any filtration and rely on water changes (these are usually smaller nano and pico tanks). They are also limited in how much bio-load they can handle and how fast it can be added. You may have less clear water, but that could mean you have happier corals or filter feeders. You don't have to have a sump but that would mean either AIO, intank or HOB. Nothing wrong with any of those, unless you start wanting a refugium.

We've all seen very impressive tanks with little to no filtration but all the long term ones balance that simplicity with every thing else.
 

New&no clue

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
May 11, 2019
Messages
3,588
Reaction score
11,601
Rating - 100%
1   0   0
In my 75 all I have is a bag of carbon and a filter sock... I also have skimmer, but I don't count that as filtration because 9 out of 10 days it is overflowing. My tank seems fine. In my sump I also have rock and bio balls.
 

Quietman

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
May 14, 2017
Messages
3,533
Reaction score
11,031
Location
Indiana - born and bred
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
In my 75 all I have is a bag of carbon and a filter sock... I also have skimmer, but I don't count that as filtration because 9 out of 10 days it is overflowing. My tank seems fine. In my sump I also have rock and bio balls.
So the skimmer is overfiltering? or maybe it's a recirculating filter? :)
 

Quietman

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
May 14, 2017
Messages
3,533
Reaction score
11,031
Location
Indiana - born and bred
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Example would be my quarantine tank. I had an HOB filter, bare bottom with just a couple pieces of rock. 10 gallon tank, just ran some carbon and polyfilter and a bit of media from my display tank.

Kept one small yellow watchman goby in there (long story, I found him a good home) anyway, I had to do 50% water changes weekly to keep nitrates under control and still, I had GHA like you wouldn't believe. Also had coralline algae, great looking corals and a very healthy goby.
 

Mical

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Aug 7, 2017
Messages
3,802
Reaction score
6,171
Location
Montrose
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
Note: I’m planning to twice weekly run a HOB with filter floss (for a few hours) to polish the water.

After reading a few of your comments like the one above (please take no offense) this is not like freshwater aquariums with some "wiggle room". Let me ask you - do you have test kits for all your parameters? You need to test specific gravity (salinity) nitrate, nitrites, phosphates and that's just the beginning. You need to read up more on reef tanks or just keeping saltwater fish, I'm just trying to save you the heartbreak and financial consequences that doing this wrong can have.
 
OP
OP
Malifry97

Malifry97

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Oct 7, 2019
Messages
2,015
Reaction score
2,039
Location
Duncannon,PA
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
How large is your tank? For a smaller tank I prefer Danner Skilter filter, Mainy because i used it from 2000 to 2005 on a heaviy stocked 55 gallon tank. It never had good reviews but at the time it was $45 and those air bubble in tank skimmers never worked well for me

Amazon product

My tanks is a 36 gallon tank, I may try this down the road!
 
OP
OP
Malifry97

Malifry97

Valuable Member
View Badges
Joined
Oct 7, 2019
Messages
2,015
Reaction score
2,039
Location
Duncannon,PA
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
After reading a few of your comments like the one above (please take no offense) this is not like freshwater aquariums with some "wiggle room". Let me ask you - do you have test kits for all your parameters? You need to test specific gravity (salinity) nitrate, nitrites, phosphates and that's just the beginning. You need to read up more on reef tanks or just keeping saltwater fish, I'm just trying to save you the heartbreak and financial consequences that doing this wrong can have.
I have done research for upwards of 8 months...and yes, I have test kits for all of it...had my tank crash once and learned from my mistakes
 

Mical

2500 Club Member
View Badges
Joined
Aug 7, 2017
Messages
3,802
Reaction score
6,171
Location
Montrose
Rating - 0%
0   0   0
I have done research for upwards of 8 months...and yes, I have test kits for all of it...had my tank crash once and learned from my mistakes

Ok , just wanted you to be prepared. We all make mistakes and I like to pass on any info that can save others from making the same.
 

DO YOU THINK TECHNOLOGICAL ADVANCEMENTS ARE MORE HELPFUL OR HURTFUL TO REEFING?

  • More helpful.

    Votes: 15 33.3%
  • More hurtful.

    Votes: 3 6.7%
  • I think it depends mostly on the technology.

    Votes: 20 44.4%
  • I think it dependsmostly on the reefer behind the technology.

    Votes: 14 31.1%
Back
Top
Home
Post thread…
Market
What's new