fish survivor please help

[HildebrandRarity]

See photos, I have had 3 fish die in the last few days and attempting to save the rest, I have a clown in quarantine and treating with copper, in my large display tank I have my angel who has toughed it out. In the main tank I am usin kick ich, I know this hardly works and takes a long time but worth a shot I guess. Let me know if you guys have any other treatment ideas I’m pretty sure it’s ich

 

[PicassoClown04]

Okay not a good situation. Ich is usually caused by the fish becoming stressed and is very hard to get rid of completely. Make sure you’re feeding a very nutritious diet, and I would use a stronger medication to help the remaining fish, like copper. This of course requires a QT tank but I feel like it’s your best option. I’m sorry for your losses, but we need to focus on saving your remaining fish.

 

[HildebrandRarity]

Okay not a good situation. Ich is usually caused by the fish becoming stressed and is very hard to get rid of completely. Make sure you’re feeding a very nutritious diet, and I would use a stronger medication to help the remaining fish, like copper. This of course requires a QT tank but I feel like it’s your best option. I’m sorry for your losses, but we need to focus on saving your remaining fish.

Thanks for your quick reply! I did set up 2 quarantine tanks and using copper on them, The one angel I have left in the large tank is very hard to catch and didn't want to stress him out more and will feed him supplemented food with selcon etc..

 

[PicassoClown04]

Have you tried fish traps? They’ve worked pretty well for me. Use the manually sprung ones. What kind of angel is it?

 

[NeonRabbit221B]

Someone in the past here suggested using a flashlight while the lights are out to put the fish in a deer in the headlights state. I find the most success in netting during feeding time by putting my net in, waiting 30 minutes and dropping the food in. Get the fish used to the net and earn their trust a few times prior.

 

[HildebrandRarity]

Have you tried fish traps? They’ve worked pretty well for me. Use the manually sprung ones. What kind of angel is it?

Koran angel, fairly large size, he has been eating very well since the first day I got him so that’s why I think he’s so strong to fight it off, I’m gonna try the fish trap if the lights off deer in headlight methos doesn’t work

 

[Qasimja]

what symptoms are the fish having?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Clown has brooklynella and others have signs of possible bacteria. I would do a good water change and switch to formalin based treatment- even quick cure
Assure salinity is correct

 

[HildebrandRarity]

what symptoms are the fish having?

Rubbing itself against rock/filters, seizure like movements, not eating

 

[HildebrandRarity]

Clown has brooklynella and others have signs of possible bacteria. I would do a good water change and switch to formalin based treatment- even quick cure
Assure salinity is correct

Wow maybe it is brookynella never even heard of that one, treating with copper now

 

[HildebrandRarity]

Here is a few photos of my angel

 

[vetteguy53081]

Copper no good for brooklynella. Formalin, general cure or ruby rally reef
On koran angel- HLLE and huge vitamin deficiency
Feed it at minimum:
Angel formula frozen
Nori seaweed basted with garlic extract
LRS herbivore diet
Mysis shrimp
Small plankton
Spirulina brine shrimp
Formula 2 flakes and frozen

ADD GARLIC AND SELCON VITAMINS TO ITS FOOD 2-3x per week

 

[HildebrandRarity]

Copper no good for brooklynella. Formalin, general cure or ruby rally reef
On koran angel- HLLE and huge vitamin deficiency
Feed it at minimum:
Angel formula frozen
Nori seaweed basted with garlic extract
LRS herbivore diet
Mysis shrimp
Small plankton
Spirulina brine shrimp
Formula 2 flakes and frozen

ADD GARLIC AND SELCON VITAMINS TO ITS FOOD 2-3x per week

thanks for all that info, on the way to the fish store to get that stuff and hopefully beat this

 

[HildebrandRarity]

Copper no good for brooklynella. Formalin, general cure or ruby rally reef
On koran angel- HLLE and huge vitamin deficiency
Feed it at minimum:
Angel formula frozen
Nori seaweed basted with garlic extract
LRS herbivore diet
Mysis shrimp
Small plankton
Spirulina brine shrimp
Formula 2 flakes and frozen

ADD GARLIC AND SELCON VITAMINS TO ITS FOOD 2-3x per week

can i add the formalin to the water with the copper or will it have a negative affect? I used seachem cupramine

 

[vetteguy53081]

can i add the formalin to the water with the copper or will it have a negative affect? I used seachem cupramine

I would not. Unless you have known ich/parasites- cupramine can be held off

 

[HildebrandRarity]

thanks

 

[SMSREEF]

@vetteguy53081 if this is brook, doesn't the angel need to come out of display and be treated as well? And display go fallow for 6 weeks to starve out the parasite?
Otherwise once the clown is treated and put back in display won't it (or new fish) just get brooklynella again?

 

[vetteguy53081]

Brooklynella is generally not one that spreads easily but can. The formalin cures both brook and protozoan parasites.
As for fallow and angel coming out, would not be a bad action

 

[HildebrandRarity]

I just got the formalin can i add it to the tank I used the cupermine with and discontinue use of cupermine

 

[vetteguy53081]

I just got the formalin can i add it to the tank I used the cupermine with and discontinue use of cupermine

I would run some carbon first to reduce the copper a little especially if you don’t know your copper level