Goni won’t open

[EliVChalk97]

Hey all! Maybe someone has an idea of what I can do. I got an amazeballs goni awhile back and it was open and happy for a few months. I had to move it because a month was overgrown and I think it stung the Goni. It kind of extended once last week but it’s now closed again.
ive changed flow, location due to flow and light, and feed it foods weekly.
I dose polyplab one and AB+
I appreciate any help!

 

[s_tempest]

Following, because same is happening here. The polyps open on mine but the stalks are much shorter (<1/2” compared to the 2-3” they were).

 

[EakTheFreak]

Same issue here. Following

 

[PBnJOnWheat]

I have a bunch of gonis but I recently got a couple from one guy among them was a glitter goni and it won’t open anymore. Love to know what causes them to stop openeing

 

[CanuckReefer]

I tried them years back with little to no success. Trying a small frag now again... have heard a few studies saying live Phytoplankton which I am currently dosing a few others twice a week and cyclops are a good one-two punch... I guess we'll see here soon enough.

 

[JosephM]

I have an alvepora I think it’s close enough to goni. I think what helped it to get open was just leaving it alone. I placed it on the sand bed and half blocked so it only got low to low-medium flow

 

[HuduVudu]

Hey all! Maybe someone has an idea of what I can do. I got an amazeballs goni awhile back and it was open and happy for a few months. I had to move it because a month was overgrown and I think it stung the Goni. It kind of extended once last week but it’s now closed again.
ive changed flow, location due to flow and light, and feed it foods weekly.
I dose polyplab one and AB+
I appreciate any help!

First off Polyplab One uses acetate. This is carbon dosing.

Second are you water changing? Trace elements are important.

I had the same issue. I would water change and polyps would come out for one day, then back in. Long story short, I finally figured out it was a depletion in my elements. I saw on my ICP that manganese was low. I also found a video from Sprung saying maganese and iron. After much fiddling I am dosing my own custom elements. Manganese nitrate and Iron ... oxide. This works. I put these in my top off and polyps are out and gonis are growing.

 

[EliVChalk97]

First off Polyplab One uses acetate. This is carbon dosing.

Second are you water changing? Trace elements are important.

I had the same issue. I would water change and polyps would come out for one day, then back in. Long story short, I finally figured out it was a depletion in my elements. I saw on my ICP that manganese was low. I also found a video from Sprung saying maganese and iron. After much fiddling I am dosing my own custom elements. Manganese nitrate and Iron ... oxide. This works. I put these in my top off and polyps are out and gonis are growing.

I do a 20% weekly water change. I did but a manganese iron supplement so I should probably start dosing that again. I have a total of 4 gonis and it’s the only one having problems.

 

[EliVChalk97]

So it looked like it wanted to open today so I dosed the manganese iron supplement. Turns out it’s just what it needed!

 

[CanuckReefer]

So it looked like it wanted to open today so I dosed the manganese iron supplement. Turns out it’s just what it needed!

What is it you use for this dose? Curious and may try... problem is I've never tested these parameters before, so if I do decide to try also what is the reasonably priced test kit?

 

[Pistondog]

Hey all! Maybe someone has an idea of what I can do. I got an amazeballs goni awhile back and it was open and happy for a few months. I had to move it because a month was overgrown and I think it stung the Goni. It kind of extended once last week but it’s now closed again.
ive changed flow, location due to flow and light, and feed it foods weekly.
I dose polyplab one and AB+
I appreciate any help!

Did you see zzyz's gonis?

Thread 'Goniopora (flowerpot corals) impossible? | Care recipes' https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/goniopora-flowerpot-corals-impossible-care-recipes.784205/

 

[HuduVudu]

What is it you use for this dose? Curious and may try... problem is I've never tested these parameters before, so if I do decide to try also what is the reasonably priced test kit?

You have to use ICP tests to test for these parameters.

 

[CanuckReefer]

You have to use ICP tests to test for these parameters.

Oh boy, ok, so involved and not of the inexpensive variety. I will hold out a bit and see. Phyto and cyclops yesterday seemed to have perked it up today. It's my 20 dollar 'experiment' lol, which I hope succeeds....

 

[CanuckReefer]

Did you see zzyz's gonis?

Thread 'Goniopora (flowerpot corals) impossible? | Care recipes' https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/goniopora-flowerpot-corals-impossible-care-recipes.784205/

This is what I heard on another post somewhere that live Phytoplankton was a magic bullet to give them a fighting chance. I've been doing it for my Orange Tree Gorg last month or two and it has helped. Also doesn't seem to explode my nitrates like other foods do.... I shut down the skimming for 12 hours after dosing. No real detectable changes in water parameters whatsoever.

 

[EliVChalk97]

What is it you use for this dose? Curious and may try... problem is I've never tested these parameters before, so if I do decide to try also what is the reasonably priced test kit?

I use Kent marine

 

[farosreef]

First off Polyplab One uses acetate. This is carbon dosing.

Second are you water changing? Trace elements are important.

I had the same issue. I would water change and polyps would come out for one day, then back in. Long story short, I finally figured out it was a depletion in my elements. I saw on my ICP that manganese was low. I also found a video from Sprung saying maganese and iron. After much fiddling I am dosing my own custom elements. Manganese nitrate and Iron ... oxide. This works. I put these in my top off and polyps are out and gonis are growing.

Magnesium or manganese?

 

[Glenner’sreef]

If I could be so bold a take this in a different direction. Soft coral toxins was my conclusion years ago as to why my success with gonis or Alveopora corals was a big zero! At the time, I was upgrading my tank size and set my mind to eliminate most of my softies and the ones I kept, I would keep a part from each other. I did and the results were seriously heathy gonis, Alveoporas not to mention my clams and sps took off. Not being able to test or see soft coral toxins I imagine is an unknown problem for many reefers. Good luck though

 

[HuduVudu]

Magnesium or manganese?

Manganese.

I use manganese nitrate that I picked up on Ebay.

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Not sure how you feel about the nitrate but for me my tank sucks up nitrate. Also the amount of nitrate that you will be dosing is pretty small.

Just be aware.

 

[farosreef]

Manganese.

I use manganese nitrate that I picked up on Ebay.

Manganese(II) nitrate hydrate, 98%, for synthesis, Certified® 25g | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Manganese(II) nitrate hydrate, 98%, for synthesis, Certified® 25g at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

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Not sure how you feel about the nitrate but for me my tank sucks up nitrate. Also the amount of nitrate that you will be dosing is pretty small.

Just be aware.

Not sure if I missed it but how much do you dose (ml/gal) with manganese and how often?

I see a lot about magnesium dosing but haven't come across any good articles about trace elements.

 

[HuduVudu]

Not sure if I missed it but how much do you dose (ml/gal) with manganese and how often?

I see a lot about magnesium dosing but haven't come across any good articles about trace elements.

The way I do it is not very accurate or scientific. To get really accurate results you need to use an ICP.

The manganese that I am using is +2. This means approximately one manganese for two nitrate. I make a solution of a known volume (1 liter) and then mix until I get 100ppm on a nitrate test. This will be approximately 50ppm of manganese. I then pull 30ml of this solution and put it in more water to be able to dose the small amount. I dose this over the course of 15 days.

Your mileage may vary. I do have large iron consumers in my tank and possibly they use the manganese too. ICP shows that my manganese is getting consumed.

I have Pipe Organ, Red Goni and red macro algae.