Goni closed for months now

[Tyguy]

I’ve had this Goni for close to 9 months now and he used to do amazing but because one of my corals was getting large I had to move him and I did my research and put him in what I think is a good spot but I’m not sure because now he’s been closed for 6 months or so and only barely opens at night or may become like a bit fluffy during the day but that’s it, I’ve tried feeding reef roids, frozen food ect ect like everything and it’s has no effect. I’m assuming the food won’t be absorbed into him if he’s closed up right? What would you do here I’ve been keeping all my general levels very stable and good, I know my phosphate are very high but I have phosphate remover bag in there and then I’m going to use chemipure original to help keep the levels down and cleaning my filter socks more often, I also so All for reef every other day about 2 ml. Pleas help me all my other corals are looking good but this dang Goni

 

[Marine Betta]

I’ve had this Goni for close to 9 months now and he used to do amazing but because one of my corals was getting large I had to move him and I did my research and put him in what I think is a good spot but I’m not sure because now he’s been closed for 6 months or so and only barely opens at night or may become like a bit fluffy during the day but that’s it, I’ve tried feeding reef roids, frozen food ect ect like everything and it’s has no effect. I’m assuming the food won’t be absorbed into him if he’s closed up right? What would you do here I’ve been keeping all my general levels very stable and good, I know my phosphate are very high but I have phosphate remover bag in there and then I’m going to use chemipure original to help keep the levels down and cleaning my filter socks more often, I also so All for reef every other day about 2 ml. Pleas help me all my other corals are looking good but this dang Goni

What are your other parameters?Whenever a Goni won’t open, it’s often because one of three reasons. 1) Manganese and/or iron is low, 2) not enough flow, 3) They’re starving.

Based on your ICP test, the glaring issue is your manganese and iron. Both are needed by gonis. I would start dosing these. How is the flow? Mine are in the same general area where I acclimate my new sps to give you an idea of how much flow they like. I spot feed my Gonis twice a week with goniopower and reef roids. You could try goniopower and see if that helps too.

 

[Tyguy]

What are your other parameters?Whenever a Goni won’t open, it’s often because one of three reasons. 1) Manganese and/or iron is low, 2) not enough flow, 3) They’re starving.

Based on your ICP test, the glaring issue is your manganese and iron. Both are needed by gonis. I would start dosing these. How is the flow? Mine are in the same general area where I acclimate my new sps to give you an idea of how much flow they like. I spot feed my Gonis twice a week with goniopower and reef roids. You could try goniopower and see if that helps too.

I think it’s lower flow not high my torch looks like he flows nicely but not crazy in the back near him I keep my Nero 3 between 25-40% medium variance, I’m looking into manganese but it’s very expensive, I’m looking into making my own using Manganese sulfate from loud wolf, have you heard of this before and do you u know of any particular problems or do you know somewhere I can get premade manganese cheaper?

 

[Marine Betta]

What are your other parameters?Whenever a Goni won’t open, it’s often because one of three reasons. 1) Manganese and/or iron is low, 2) not enough flow, 3) They’re starving.

Based on your ICP test, the glaring issue is your manganese and iron. Both are needed by gonis. I would start dosing these. How is the flow? Mine are in the same general area where I acclimate my new sps to give you an idea of how much flow they like. I spot feed my Gonis twice a week with goniopower and reef roids. You could try goniopower and see if that helps too.

I think it’s lower flow not high my torch looks like he flows nicely but not crazy in the back near him I keep my Nero 3 between 25-40% medium variance, I’m looking into manganese but it’s very expensive, I’m looking into making my own using Manganese sulfate from loud wolf, have you heard of this before and do you u know of any particular problems or do you know somewhere I can get premade manganese cheaper?

I would try putting it in a spot with higher flow. I’ve never tried to make my own manganese. That would a question for someone like Randy Holmes Farley. Captiv8/Isol8 makes very affordable products for dosing trace elements. Most of their products are between 12 and 20 dollars, and one of their products has an all in one with almost every trace element in it. A little bit goes a long way with this stuff. It should last you awhile.

 

[Science/G]

Test your nitrates

 

[Tyguy]

They were a bit low so I bought them up about 2 weeks ago I think it helped a bit for the first couple of days but now it’s back to fully closed again

 

[get-salty]

They need right amount of Manganese.
Two Little Fishies makes Iron WITH manganese. Very affordable

https://www.saltwateraquarium.com/i...hies/?searchid=9343170&search_query=manganese

 

[Tyguy]

They need stable level of Manganese.
Two Little Fishies makes Iron WITH manganese. Very affordable

https://www.saltwateraquarium.com/i...hies/?searchid=9343170&search_query=manganese

I thought that was only iron, I will order that today thank you so much that’s much cheaper then buying iron and manganese separate

 

[Daniel Doherty]

Also having this problem, how are people dosing it? Manually? Is the only way to know how much to dose it through an ICP?
Sorry I’m a university student still so not mad on starting ICP testing. I’m wondering if you could work out a ratio to dose it in correlation to Alk uptake or anything like that ?

 

[get-salty]

Also having this problem, how are people dosing it? Manually? Is the only way to know how much to dose it through an ICP?
Sorry I’m a university student still so not mad on starting ICP testing. I’m wondering if you could work out a ratio to dose it in correlation to Alk uptake or anything like that ?

its concentrated so read the instructions per tank size. I dose it manually right after every water change - once a week. I recommend start out half amount of what is recommended and move up slowly.

it doesnt effect with my alk

 

[jbano]

First of all, your tank is beautiful!

Secondly, I'm very conservative when it comes to these types of things. If most items in your tank are stable and happy, keep doing what your doing for the tank as whole. I wouldn't start with adjustments to water parameters. If the goni was only noticed after the relocation, I would focus on finding it another location in the tank until finding its happy place. I wouldn't do anything corporately if all else is doing well. Best of luck!

 

[js-3Design]

Also having this problem, how are people dosing it? Manually? Is the only way to know how much to dose it through an ICP?
Sorry I’m a university student still so not mad on starting ICP testing. I’m wondering if you could work out a ratio to dose it in correlation to Alk uptake or anything like that ?

I dose manganese and iodine by hand.
I do 2 drups manganese a day on a 65 gallon.
But doses depend on the concentration.
I do icp every 6 weeks to confirm.
Its always in green.

You can dillute it in distilled water and put it on a doser.

 

[Tyguy]

Dose the iodine help anything in the tank or what’s iodine for like is it like copper for green coloration or something like that

 

[ReefED!]

I’ve had gonis close up and bleach many times

They will usually recover if you do the following witchcraft which is not scientifically proven:


1.) dip in 1:10 peroxide:water for 4 min - this will kill nasty stuff and won’t hurt your Goni
2.) next day give them a bath in some particulate food and aminos mixed with some chaetogro- this is the witches brew I picked up from Devin at Reef Dudes and probably does nothing but maybe it does something so I do it
3.) put in a very low light area of the tank

What will usually happen is it’ll slowly recover over a month or two and be completely bleached out - looks really pretty actually - and then gain its color and extension back

 

[DSC reef]

With everything looking great in the tank, I wouldn't start adjusting anything for one coral. Id move the goniopora to a lower part of the tank and see how it responds in time

 

[BryanM]

Lots of people report better results with goni's after dosing manganese.

 

[Mr. Mojo Rising]

My very first goni ever stayed closed for about 5 months before it finally started opening up. Don't give up hope.

 

[BryanM]

If you see signs of life, I bet dosing manganese and/or iron will help.

 

[Reginald Reefer III]

Manganese does not stay in solution long at all in a saltwater environment. It is very easily oxidized and consumed by coral/algaes VERY fast. I dose 20mL a day and I'm constantly having to adjust it upwards. Iron is in the same boat.

Mileage varies on it though depending on your tank and coral/algae load. Check levels with an ICP to be certain on how much to dose.

 

[Daniel Doherty]

Also having this problem, how are people dosing it? Manually? Is the only way to know how much to dose it through an ICP?
Sorry I’m a university student still so not mad on starting ICP testing. I’m wondering if you could work out a ratio to dose it in correlation to Alk uptake or anything like that ?

its concentrated so read the instructions per tank size. I dose it manually right after every water change - once a week. I recommend start out half amount of what is recommended and move up slowly.

it doesnt effect with my alk

Okay, that sounds good. So you don’t test your manganese per say? Just dose as per instructions? Could you not end up overdosing doing this?
Sorry about all the questions, just trying to find out more