Got first lab results and some thoughts.

[George03]

parameter report is a month old, parameters will have changed.

paramters-

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microbio-

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thoughts- research on the biomic led me to a finding after some research, I have an over abundance of a bacteria that binds to amino acids, and is likely causing a competition problem with the corals esp LPS that have been RTN. Been direct dosing coral food, and there is obvious improvement.

second most striking is the prevalence of dinos and diatoms. All this time I thought the prevailing dino, was Osteros. Now I see it was just because that they are very large and easy to see under microscope. Karlodinium - very small, and there is a question of toxicity which I always suspected all along. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karlodinium

I now have a baseline to move on. I am going to start thinking on a strategy of directed algae control. I have one dose head available to program for direct defense on the predator algae.

I have a refugium with brown hair. All the normal filter stuff. I do not have an easy way to use mat conveniently.

What would you direct dose?

Algaecide
H2O2
Dino-x
RAZOR

something else?
Other strategy?

Thinking about another round of Dr. Tims system with a blackout period.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

Salinity is low. I’d raise it.

Phosphate is low. Have you measured nitrate? Feeding more or dosing N and P might be in order.

Are you doing water changes?

What is in the tank?

I’m not sure what you mean by a bacteria that binds amino acids.

Are you dosing bacteria?

 

[George03]

They report some sort of calculated. Measured salinity is fine. Hydrometer.
Nyos P and N as a safety net.
Frags and fish, rock and water.

I took the list of the overly successful bacteria and reached a conclusion there are several articles that mention attachment behavior to amino acids.

No and yes. This data is a month old because that is the turnaround. I added a lot of the seeding sand media after I send my samples in.

In a Dr Tim's dino cleanse right now, will finish the course and cycle water and send in a new test end of week.

My currently new thesis is that the organics that thrive do so because they are aggressive and successful at surviving, by toxins, binding nutrients and any other warfare. It's not a level playing field.

 

[KStatefan]

They report some sort of calculated. Measured salinity is fine. Hydrometer.

I would verify that. Both Sodium and Chlorine on your results show about 10% low.

 

[George03]

I'm not asking how to fix me. I am trying to offer up my interpretation on the reports I have the ability, time, and desire to share. Please know I know how to read. This is almost 2 months ago. My lfs shut down and all my source water media has changed. It was/is an adjustment period. I use the same home tests and correlate red sea with Hannah on the N and P. If anything I have been consistent. I have a strong back ground in scientific method and hypothesis testing. And confidence intervals. Masters thesis was process control and optimization for the petroleum industry.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

They report some sort of calculated. Measured salinity is fine. Hydrometer.
Nyos P and N as a safety net.
Frags and fish, rock and water.

I took the list of the overly successful bacteria and reached a conclusion there are several articles that mention attachment behavior to amino acids.

No and yes. This data is a month old because that is the turnaround. I added a lot of the seeding sand media after I send my samples in.

In a Dr Tim's dino cleanse right now, will finish the course and cycle water and send in a new test end of week.

My currently new thesis is that the organics that thrive do so because they are aggressive and successful at surviving, by toxins, binding nutrients and any other warfare. It's not a level playing field.

That amino acid comment does not make sense to me as a chemist who has worked with bacteria. I’d not focus on the amino acid bit, but focus on bacteria you may be adding (intentionally or accidentally) and stop adding them. I think actions taken in response to dna testing are in their infancy.

Adding some fresh ocean rock or sand might normalize things a bit.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley Verified Community Expert]

I'm not asking how to fix me.

No?

Is that not exactly what you are asking? Do you want advice on what to do?

What would you direct dose?
Algaecide
H2O2
Dino-x
RAZOR

something else?
Other strategy?

 

[KStatefan]

I'm not asking how to fix me. I am trying to offer up my interpretation on the reports I have the ability, time, and desire to share. Please know I know how to read. This is almost 2 months ago. My lfs shut down and all my source water media has changed. It was/is an adjustment period. I use the same home tests and correlate red sea with Hannah on the N and P. If anything I have been consistent. I have a strong back ground in scientific method and hypothesis testing. And confidence intervals. Masters thesis was process control and optimization for the petroleum industry.

Sounds good no more responses from me.

 

[George03]

I get the reflex is to fix it. Almost every post is a request for help. I will use the chemistry thread for this. I am surprised my post surfaced. I wish there be a friendly way to say it's just for collaboration. Yes, agreed to the random pour and hope. Just trying to dig deeper, and the science isn't quite there. My back ground is, we may not understand or have to understand the interactions, but we can study cause and effect at a level that can be measured. Here's some measures. Looking forward to the next report.

 

[George03]

That amino acid comment does not make sense to me as a chemist who has worked with bacteria. I’d not focus on the amino acid bit, but focus on bacteria you may be adding (intentionally or accidentally) and stop adding them. I think actions taken in response to dna testing are in their infancy.

Adding some fresh ocean rock or sand might normalize things a bit.

I did aquabiomics gulf sand, water and all. That was After this baseline.not before. About the same time I ordered the sample kits.