Has anyone that pre-ordered seen their ION Director yet?

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They made rules for the pre order. Pay in full by a certain date. Or no pre order. No soup for you!!! We did in good faith. Now where's the good faith from GHL????

Everyone can think what they want about this. To me it sounds like the IOND is going to be a failure. Silence beckons of uncertainty. Anyone see one in action that's not a beta?
 

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Maybe they’re just busy hammering out the logistics for their maxi 2 doser presale :)
 

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I dont normally post things like this but i just have to say that ive been watching this whole thing and cant understand why anybody would not be demanding their money back by now…
 

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I dont normally post things like this but i just have to say that ive been watching this whole thing and cant understand why anybody would not be demanding their money back by now…
Well @Vinny@GHLUSA just told him today that they have nothing further to say on the issue and if he is not happy with that he should request a refund.
 

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A company may have well made products but if the people behind them do not value their customers enough to take the time to honestly communicate with them, do they really deserve your money?
 

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A company may have well made products but if the people behind them do not value their customers enough to take the time to honestly communicate with them, do they really deserve your money?
I've lost a lot of respect for GHL over this.
 

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They know what's going on. They know when and if it will ever ship. They don't want us to know.
And that's bad news for us that pre ordered. They're coming out with the new doser so they don't want bad vibes affecting that. They know people will wait. It just might backfire on them if people lose patience waiting.
 

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Well @Vinny@GHLUSA just told him today that they have nothing further to say on the issue and if he is not happy with that he should request a refund.

Out of interest, do you still think those who pre-ordered should hold out? The 3-4 month timeframe given in the 12 August 2021 update, which was to have completed delivery of all pre-orders is fast approaching. Just wondering if anything you've seen/read over the last month or so has altered your view. We pre-ordered December 2019.
 

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Out of interest, do you still think those who pre-ordered should hold out? The 3-4 month timeframe given in the 12 August 2021 update, which was to have completed delivery of all pre-orders is fast approaching. Just wondering if anything you've seen/read over the last month or so has altered your view. We pre-ordered December 2019.
GHL is obviously going to do what it wants regardless of who pre-ordered or not. It's up to you too decide whether to get a refund or not. We can't rely on what they say anymore.
They've proven that.
 

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Out of interest, do you still think those who pre-ordered should hold out? The 3-4 month timeframe given in the 12 August 2021 update, which was to have completed delivery of all pre-orders is fast approaching. Just wondering if anything you've seen/read over the last month or so has altered your view. We pre-ordered December 2019.
I would still hold on a bit longer. I figure that if by December GHL is not able to deliver a properly working product they will probably pull the plug themselves. If they stay on this road past mid December I would personally not wait around any longer, but that is each persons own choice, I can only speak for myself assuming I had waited around this long already.
 
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I would still hold on a bit longer. I figure that if by December GHL is not able to deliver a properly working product they will probably pull the plug themselves. If they stay on this road past mid December I would personally not wait around any longer, but that is each persons own choice, I can only speak for myself assuming I had waited around this long already.
Reading on the German forum.. do we really believe this thing is any good? I preordered and held on so far.. but probe life is extremely short, at 120$ every six month it’s getting pretty expensive. It’s true they say 6 months minimum, but if the probes are getting messed up just by shipping them, what makes you believe they are made to last?
 

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Reading on the German forum.. do we really believe this thing is any good? I preordered and held on so far.. but probe life is extremely short, at 120$ every six month it’s getting pretty expensive. It’s true they say 6 months minimum, but if the probes are getting messed up just by shipping them, what makes you believe they are made to last?

Honest answer is that I am just as disturbed by the seemingly delicate nature of theses probes as you are.

This problem seems to be the one they are working on. I can only hope that they have made some major changes to the probes and are testing them now.
 

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Wow I can’t believe you ghl guys are still waiting for this. I remember waiting for the trident too but I think ghl has gone beyond. I actually concidered switching to ghl when I first heard of this device but after this there’d be no way…
 

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When this was first introduced I recall many people asking @Vinny@GHLUSA how they overcame the probe/sensor problems that were notoriously problematic for others trying to come up with this technology. Vinny assured everyone that they had the problem fully figured out. This was GHL after all. Their engineering was top notch and we should trust them telling us they have it absolutely right. I bought in, I was convinced along with so many others.
Now, two years later and what is the problem holding it back????
I guess it's hard for GHL to admit they didn't get it right.
Now....... The big question is? How much more money is GHL willing to throw at this before having to deem this a failure and then pull the plug on it? That's going to seriously hurt their ego. And probably the main reason for so much silence from them.
 

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When this was first introduced I recall many people asking @Vinny@GHLUSA how they overcame the probe/sensor problems that were notoriously problematic for others trying to come up with this technology. Vinny assured everyone that they had the problem fully figured out. This was GHL after all. Their engineering was top notch and we should trust them telling us they have it absolutely right. I bought in, I was convinced along with so many others.
Now, two years later and what is the problem holding it back????
I guess it's hard for GHL to admit they didn't get it right.
Now....... The big question is? How much more money is GHL willing to throw at this before having to deem this a failure and then pull the plug on it? That's going to seriously hurt their ego. And probably the main reason for so much silence from them.
Maybe that's why the amount of GHL products in the selling pages of this forum has dramatically increased over few months.. are people selling everything thinking of a Mindstream kind of failure? GHL is not a massive company, a failure like this would sink the ship completely. I just hope we are totally wrong, it would be an incredible loss
 

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Maybe that's why the amount of GHL products in the selling pages of this forum has dramatically increased over few months.. are people selling everything thinking of a Mindstream kind of failure? GHL is not a massive company, a failure like this would sink the ship completely. I just hope we are totally wrong, it would be an incredible loss
And maybe that's what they're afraid of. Again when someone goes quiet it's never a good thing. Loan someone a thousand dollars. When they stop talking to you then you know you have gotten taken. If there was good news it most certainly would be relayed to us.
 

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I'm vested in GHL. About 3-4k worth. I have no choice but to wait. I'll never go Neptune/Apex.
I hope they figure it out.
 
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