Howto: 0-10v Control Return Pump

[Jgoal55]

Did you shut of the socket or the 1-10 V

Sincerely Lasse

The 1-10v

I think it’s that I turned it back on (stopped maint mode) too quickly after having entered maint mode.

I tried again a couple of times today and it worked perfectly fine after I waited a few minutes before exiting maint mode.

 

[Jgoal55]

Just a quick update here: the illumination channels are working perfectly for my RD3 pumps. Thank you @Lasse for the suggestion!!

on another note, while setting up and calibrating my KHD last night, I came across another one of your posts that really helped me. Thanks for all your help and contributions on these forums!

 

[TehBrainz]

I know I'm resurrecting an old post, but I've been attempting a similar setup and running into issues.

I've been attempting to rewire a 3.5mm jack into the RJ12 coupler, but the various wires I've been attempting to use don't have solid wires, they are braided and I can't seem to get them to align properly in the RJ12. Maybe it's me, maybe it's the braided wires. I'd rather rewire than use the GHL module so I just have a single wire going between my profilux and Varios.

Regardless, I found an ice cap Y cable at BRS. I'm thinking I should be able to snip the RJ45 and rewire into an RJ12. I don't want to buy a 3rd wire and it not work though.

Thoughts?

Should I keep attempting with the braided wires or give the ice cap one a shot?

 

[TehBrainz]

So I'm a bit at a loss with controlling my varios return pump with 0-10v.

I found a 3.5mm jack with bare wires at the end. I verified the wiring as shown with my ohm meter and wired into an RJ12 connector as mentioned by others in this thread. I verified connection with my ohm meter again. All good. However, after I set up my stream group per this thread (and the literature from GHL), I don't seem to have any control of the pump. Ive tried adjusting the max % and turning on and off feed pauses, but the pump is constant.

Some oddities I've noted while running:
1. I still can change the speed of the pump from the Varios controller, although it doesn't seem to match up with speeds when 0-10v is unplugged
2. I'm watching the watts via Kasa strip. Bounces between 75 and 85 watts at Speed 3 on the controller and "80%" in GCC. When 0-10v I'd unplugged, wattage is 66.2 with ~0.2 watt fluctuations.
edit: I'm a dummy and had to strike these out as I didn't have the connection fully seated in the Varios controller

Could really use some help figuring this out.

New wire


Profilux setup:

 

[TehBrainz]

So I'm a dummy. The random wattage and ability to still use the controller when plugged in with 0-10v was due to not having the 3.5mm jack all the way inserted. Doh!

Now I can't change speed using the varios controller (as expected), but I get ZERO flow no matter what settings are in the pump and pump group

 

[TehBrainz]

@Lasse , @Macca_75 , or @Vinny@GHLUSA any ideas?

 

[Lasse]

How have you connected the RJ12 to your cable? Pin 2 is + for channel 1, pin 3 is gnd (-) for both channels and pin 5 is + for channel 2. However - its a little mysteries how GHL connect the pins and how they count them I´ll think that it is this way. The flap in direction from you. I have noted that they use different colours for the different pins sometimes - I think its differ between L and S cables. This is an old L cable with the cables mounted (from pin 1 to 6) in this order Black, Brown, Red, Orange, yellow and green. another combination I have seen is (pin 1 -6) white Brown, green, yellow, lilac and red

Hope it helps

Sincerely Lasse

 

[TehBrainz]

How have you connected the RJ12 to your cable? Pin 2 is + for channel 1, pin 3 is gnd (-) for both channels and pin 5 is + for channel 2. However - its a little mysteries how GHL connect the pins and how they count them I´ll think that it is this way. The flap in direction from you. I have noted that they use different colours for the different pins sometimes - I think its differ between L and S cables. This is an old L cable with the cables mounted (from pin 1 to 6) in this order Black, Brown, Red, Orange, yellow and green. another combination I have seen is (pin 1 -6) white Brown, green, yellow, lilac and red

Hope it helps

Sincerely Lasse

Thank you, it really did.

You know....sometimes I think I'm a pretty bright individual, but then this happens. I was so particular about the position of the wiring into the connector on the first attempts with the cheap wires, that when my new "good" wire came in I mistakenly wired into terminals 4 and 5, thinking they were the appropriate 2 and 3.

UGH

Worked perfectly well once I had connections corrected.

GHL: 145
Me: 0

My improper RJ12 connection (clip down)

Edited picture so others wouldn't mistake it as correct positioning

 

[clawhammer]

Hi @TehBrainz ,
I'm in UK and trying to purchase a cable to connect my VarioS to the breakout box. I've watched the video linked by GHL's website and further back in this thread and they have screwed the bare wires into the board and glued but you appear to have used the RJ45 connection having ensured the wires are correctly placed in the RJ45 connector. Is this correct and, if so, can you advise a bit more how you've achieved this please.
TIA, CH

 

[TehBrainz]

Hi @TehBrainz ,
I'm in UK and trying to purchase a cable to connect my VarioS to the breakout box. I've watched the video linked by GHL's website and further back in this thread and they have screwed the bare wires into the board and glued but you appear to have used the RJ45 connection having ensured the wires are correctly placed in the RJ45 connector. Is this correct and, if so, can you advise a bit more how you've achieved this please.
TIA, CH

I connected the wires from a 3.5mm jack to an RJ12 connector that I then connected directly to the back of my profilux and not through a breakout box. When I need to control more pumps, I'll buy the breakout box and rewire.

It's an easy process either using the breakout box or bypassing, but you have to ensure the wires are in the appropriate terminals for proper control.

This post shows the wiring of a 3.5mm jack and the external case for the breakout (with description of where the wires connect)

this schematic for a standard headphone cable:

and the breakout box pinout:

It should be blue wire to 2, ground to 3...

This shows the internals of the breakout box where you'd wire the 3.5mm jack. Then you'll use a RJ12 cable to connect to the back of the profilux. (This is setup from the video you watched)

There are multiple ways to convert 0-10v cables to work with ghl. Since most are setup to run with apex they have rj45 ends. Ghl uses rj12.
Ghl recommends you cut the ends off and use their S-port L-port box.

each side of it can run 2 different controls. Switch 1 would use terminal 2+ and terminal 3 Gnd...

This post depicts the 3.5mm jack wired directly into the RJ12 connector that is then plugged directly into the back of the profilux (no breakout box and what I did).

I bought a 3.5mm audio cable from the local electronics store (5m long) and cut one end off.

Bought a RJ12 6pin plug and wired pin2 (from the left with the clip facing down) to DIM+ and pin3 to DIM- (ground) - sorry for the bad MSPAINT pic below)

Hope this helps

 

[clawhammer]

I connected the wires from a 3.5mm jack to an RJ12 connector that I then connected directly to the back of my profilux and not through a breakout box. When I need to control more pumps, I'll buy the breakout box and rewire.

It's an easy process either using the breakout box or bypassing, but you have to ensure the wires are in the appropriate terminals for proper control.

This post shows the wiring of a 3.5mm jack and the external case for the breakout (with description of where the wires connect)



This shows the internals of the breakout box where you'd wire the 3.5mm jack. Then you'll use a RJ12 cable to connect to the back of the profilux. (This is setup from the video you watched)



This post depicts the 3.5mm jack wired directly into the RJ12 connector that is then plugged directly into the back of the profilux (no breakout box and what I did).



Hope this helps

Hi, thanks for all this. Much appreciated.

Just to make sure I’ve not got my wires crossed (no pun intended), I don’t need a breakout box to connect VarioS to Profilux if I use this method? Is there any loss in functionality doing it this way instead of using a breakout box?
Many thanks,
CH

 

[TehBrainz]

Hi, thanks for all this. Much appreciated.

Just to make sure I’ve not got my wires crossed (no pun intended), I don’t need a breakout box to connect VarioS to Profilux if I use this method? Is there any loss in functionality doing it this way instead of using a breakout box?
Many thanks,
CH

As long as you identify the correct wires and have them in the correct pin locations in the RJ12 connector it should work the same.

You'll need:
Wire strippers
RJ12 crimper tool
3.5mm cable
RJ12 connectors


I have a short run and only the return pump being controlled so this was all I needed