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Discussion in 'Tank Emergency' started by RouJr, Jun 12, 2019 at 7:17 AM.

  1. RouJr

    RouJr Member

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    hey guys.
    I'm new to reeling and I irresponsibly introduced some fish to my aquarium before fully cycled. I have realised how silly this was since through reading. I have a 300L(80ish gallon) tank I introduced 2 yellow tails and 2 perculas when ammonia was still between 5-10. Ammonia and nitrite have been 0 for over a month now and my clowns have developed marks. At first I worried it was ich then I worried velvet. Then I realised it was neither and I couldn't ID what. I have profelacticly using polyplab medic for 4 days now but I would really like assistance IDing what's going on so I have the right treatment.
    Clowns have hosted a helliofungia which is almost always plump as so they don't ever rub the skeleton. One of the clowns also likes to spend time in a small torch.

    300l
    Sg 1.026
    33degrees
    Ammonia 0
    Nitrite 0
    Nitrate <5
    Ph 8.0-8.2(somewhere between these two on my calibration card but it is stable dy to day and am-pm)
    Tank has 30kg of live rock and I have several kilos of ceramic media in a canister filter

    I currently have a juvenile niger, mid sized keyhole angel, 2 perculas, 2 yellow tails, several softies a Trachy a Helio and a torch.

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  2. Jon Fishman

    Jon Fishman Valuable Member

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    Ammonia burns perhaps. Keep up with water changes, and keep an eye on them maybe.
     
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    homer1475 Well-Known Member

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    Coral burns. Your clowns do actually get stung by the coral/anemone they host in, and that is the black spots your seeing. It will subside in time, and not nontypical for clowns to exhibit these marks when they fist start entering corals/anemones.
     
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  4. RouJr

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    There is frayed black on the gill slits of one of the which can be seen in this photo. Is that still consistent with coral burns?
     
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    Rover Active Member Build Thread Contributor

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    Welcome to the forum! I agree with the above, just watch.

    And I will say, for a newcomer to the hobby, you take beautiful photos. That will go a long way towards helping diagnose and figure out any problems in the future!
     
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  6. Brett S

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    This can’t be right... if you put anything in that tank while ammonia was 5-10 ppm it would have died within minutes. Is it possible that the ammonia was .5-1.0? That is still very high and bad for the fish, but it’s possible that they could have survived it.
     
  7. brandon429

    brandon429 why did you put a reef in that R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award

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    agreed. nothing related to cycling is occurring here/now

    disease transfer/fallow/qt protocols are at work
     
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    I do see evidence of being stung by the coral but I also see some evidence on the fins that make me think flukes are a possibility as well. I'd recommend doing a 5 minute freshwater dip just to make sure that they aren't present
    https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/freshwater-dip.248898/
     
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  9. RouJr

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    I've done a couple of freshwater dips 48 hours apart I stretched it out to 10 minutes because the. clowns didn't seem very distressed after 5 and 8. I could not identify anything in the bottom of the bucket that could have been a dislodged parasite
     
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    Mjrenz Valuable Member R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award

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    That's good that you didn't see any flukes. Let's check with @ngoodermuth @HotRocks and @4FordFamily just to make sure they don't see anything that's a cause for concern
     
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    You either have an infection or a coral burn, or both. It could also be uronema but my bet is on the prior. It already looks pretty ready, I'd recommend treating with furan 2, kanaplex, and metroplex in a quarantine for 10-14 days to clear it up.
     
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    I agree
     
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  13. RouJr

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    thank you everyone for your advise. when I next get paid ill go and purchase the three recommended treatments and try and make a QT to run them through. Its. such a contradiction that I live in QLD Australia on. the. great barrier reef but the chemicals and equipment to keep our animals in a reef are so in accessible.


    I can go. snorkelling and. see between a 10 foot moray and a 20cm peacock cod.
     
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