I received a box of rocks today.

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  1. NY_Caveman

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    There was a lot going on here tonight and none of it was great. Nothing serious, mind you, just some normal setbacks (In reefing? No way! ;Jawdrop).

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    First and foremost, our fish did not ship, but is being monitored. That is okay. I want them to deliver a strong specimen. I am requesting any details. This is my first shipped fish ever, so of course I am already nervous. I understand this is not the hardiest of species either (Pseudocheilinops ataenia).

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    Second thing is, after adding a simple Phosphate remover bag and doing a couple of water changes, PO4 has returned to around 0.68. I am setup to create a small Chaetomorpha refugium in one of the filter compartments, I just need to get some Chaeto. That may help some, but it will only be 3% of the system volume (my experience is there are also benefits to plants and Macroalgae beyond pure nutrient removal as well).

    I really want to keep this tank simple and natural based partly on how I kept saltwater aquariums years ago (choice live rock, skimmer, activated carbon, strong lighting and flow). I will utilize some newer ideas of course (love my gyre). I decided early though I am not interested in reactors or anything that adds pumps or flow outside of the system. Then I toyed with the idea for a while and now I am back where I started. I guess I feel if I wanted to run external pumps I would have gone with a sump. That is how I feel for my tank and I say that knowing reactors work well for many people’s nano systems (I note I do have a Tunze Osmolator, so I have one external pump).

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    The third thing I am a bit down about I was not sure I would share, but I am. It is part of my system and I want to document everything here. I removed the Xanthid crab tonight. He was right there in the perimeter where he patrols every night. It was easy to get him. Too easy. I debated a long time in my head because I love invertebrates. That is why I have a reef. Keeping the Xanthid crab was a risk. I am pretty sure he killed a hermit (could have been another hermit perhaps) and I did not feel comfortable having him when I added fish. Regardless, the deed is done. Unlike the simple and crude Aiptasia and Mojanos that I eradicate without thought, the crab was different. I euthanized him in a manner I have used before for dying fish that I consider quite humane. As humane as possible.

    This is a new setup and these things are all part of it. Honestly, I portray them above as negatives, but they are not. They all make me feel great because after many years away from the hobby, I am a reefer again.


     
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    This is very unusual! I've never heard of an online supplier doing this. I hope it works out!

    That always stinks. Crabs are a lot different than killing weeds (aipy's). It's unfortunate you don't have a fuge in your sump to let him have his own kingdom but it is what it is.
     
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    Are you sure you lost a hermit and it just wasn't a molt?
     
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    This is my first shipped fish as I mentioned, so I was not sure if this was common. Thanks for the input. I called the vendor and it turns out their facility had a general issue and they were not shipping any fish. Our specific fish was fine and it is likely he will ship out today. Good to know.

    Yes. I am certain.
     
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    That makes much more sense, I feel better for you! ;)
     
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    Yes. I am used to delays in this build, as long as the Wrasse is fine I am happy.

     
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    I sent in an ATI ICP-OES test today. As this is a new build I wanted to have a baseline if I ever had a need to test in the future. I may do a test every year just to see what is happening with parameters I cannot test.

    My daughter and I found a bivalve today deep in a crevice. We could not got a good picture, but we did see it open and close. It was a simple, boring light grey color, more oval than round and about 3/4”. Pretty cool!

    I add 5ml of Phytoplankton daily and the pods really go nuts, even in the peak light of the day (which is pretty low right now as posted before). I had a sample of Mysis pellets and tossed a couple in as well. The shrimps all really enjoyed that.

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    Here is a video of Pepper trying to secure his treat before the big Cleaner Shrimp could steal it.


     
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    No fish today. I am pretty bummed. I got up very early (I work late into the AM as some of you know) for nothing, so running on fumes today. The fish is stuck at a FedEx hub in Indianapolis. Their explanation was that although several packages made it onto the plane this morning, there was not room for all of them. I realize my package is no more important than any other person's, but it seems to me a package clearly marked with a live animal would make it onto the plane. Also, why I am paying for overnight if they can just arbitrarily leave my package out? Is this common? I have never heard of this. I will see what happens tomorrow, but suffice it to say I am not in a good mood today. I really think I am cursed when it comes to shipping anything (for example, this is the third time in nine months that a shipping company had the wrong phone number for me. Really?!?!?) I will post more about this experience when it resolves one way or the other.

     
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    OH COME ON ! ! ! !

    Not again ! ! ! !

    :mad: :mad: ;Punch ;Punch
     
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    Thanks @Fudsey. If this fish comes with a crack in it I quit.

     
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    I feel your pain. The fickle finger of shipping really seems to choose just a few to really roll hard on. Fingers crossed that your Wrasse shows up hearty and hale despite the delay
     
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    Thanks @Raege.
     
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    I've had more problems with local fish than shipped ones. Makes me wonder if I'm just lucky.
     
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    We have a fish!
    Pink Streaked Wrasse
    (Pseudocheilinops ataenia)


    As soon as we got him I added an airstone and started dripping. After about 36 hours in the bag I skipped floating him to get him some air.
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    Here he was swimming around about a half hour after we shot the video. He did “play dead” for a bit as the girls mentioned and as I expected. Terrible picture, just wanted to show everyone he seems okay. He enjoys swimming around the gyre just to add to my nervousness.
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    In the video you also learned our Cleaner Shrimp are now named Lucy and Ricky. They were names we had considered that seem to have stuck.
     
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    Nice vid. You have two beautiful daughters there as well. I hope Lucky the Wrasse keeps swimming strong for you
     
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    I love how they enjoy the tank, hope Lucky settles well for you. :)
     
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    Cute kids and congrats on getting a live fish after that fiasco
     
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    Thank you all. My little co-producers love to turn it on for the camera. It has been about three hours now and the fish appears to be doing well. He is staying hidden mostly, but I have seen him out a couple of times.
     
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    Better picture. He seems to be getting his color back full.
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    Sorry for all of the reflection, but I have kept the lights out today while he settles in.


     
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    We are absolutely loving this little girl.
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    I had been calling this fish he, but actually a Pseudocheilinops ataenia is probably a she. They are female unless they transition to male. She spent the night in the cave with the shrimp and is feeling a little less shy today. The Cleaner Shrimp have been out a lot more as well hanging out on the rocks.

    I tested PO4 last night and after having done a couple of 10% water changes this week it is down to around 0.5. The Phosphate remover I added may also be helping some. The clean Chaeto came yesterday from @AlgaeBarn so I finally set up the small filter compartment refugium in the back. I am hoping this has some effect on the PO4 as well, but I feel Macroalgae has several benefits beyond just nutrient export.


     
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