Na Paul, it was whatever went in-to- the-netWhen I started keeping fish in the fifties the internet was what was in the bottom of the net.
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Na Paul, it was whatever went in-to- the-netWhen I started keeping fish in the fifties the internet was what was in the bottom of the net.
Predation, once a fish gets weak enough by ich or anything else it becomes somebody's meal.Immunity. And they stay immune because they are constantly exposed. Now isn't that special. What a concept.
Did you use live rock? Just wondering.A lot of the no quarantine seams to revolve around ich management. Drop a new fish in, had spots then they go away.
Are there examples of dropped a fish in, had velvet or flukes then they went away? All fish then lived until they died of old age?
To date I've had poor success with fish. Two alive out of nine. I dont think I'm necessarily doing anything drastically wrong.
First three went through the quarantine process outlined here on the forum. All made it to the DT. Two died in the DT, for no cause that I could see, but I'm not a fish doctor. Which it seams like you need to be at times.
The next two went through an observation quarantine. A wrasse died in the QT. I think it got a spinal injury, tail on the bottom like a weight was on it. In hindsight maybe it was affected by flukes as well. Didn't know flukes were present until I transferred the Royal Gramma in there to the DT.
Ended up loosing the Royal Gramma and a Cardinal I had to the flukes. I think the flukes were Prazi resistant. I got the Cardinal through hypo, but it ended up dying.
The next batch of four fish I just dropped straight in the DT. After it had gone follow. After a few days on the DT I noticed spots on one (firefish) and two others (blenny and chalk bass) flashing. The blenny was swimming into the flow of the powerhead. So I thought the worst, possible velvet. I noticed no issues with the other fish (possum wrasse). So I got all out into the QT with copper. All seamed fine for some time. The blenny suddenly died. I think it was from a piece of dirt I saw the fish eat when I was feeding white worms. I missed it and was surprised the fish ingested it, it died within two days of eating the dirt. All was fine with the fish prior. The Bass died after recovering from a popeye. The fish had popeye, the eye recovered, the fish died. Not sure what happened.
I have the firefish and possum wrasse still in the QT and done with copper treatment. The 76 days follow will end on April 5th, when they'll go back into the DT.
I'm feeding LRS, white worms and selcon. Even having Paul's book next to my tank doesn't seam to help!
Maybe I should just keep coral and inverts, since I'm not having any issues with those.
The bars and restaurants in MN closed tonight at 5. Went to Costco on a regular liquor run at 4:30. Apparently it’s not just TP that gets people concerned . Everyone had carts and flatbeds full of enough booze for a month or two. Never seen such long lines to checkout.Made sure i hit the liquor store on my way home today. No idea when the one near me is opening again lol.
NoDid you use live rock? Just wondering.
I'm starting to see a trend with disease management and it all seems to point to live ocean rock. Paul uses mud and stuff from the ocean. This being said alot of people keep fish and qt and dry rock that do pretty well. I would start a new thread asking for some insight on your procedure.
Are there examples of dropped a fish in, had velvet or flukes then they went away? All fish then lived until they died of old age?
That's just it, I don't think it's necessarily anything out of wack with what I'm doing or that any average fish keeper would do.I'm starting to see a trend with disease management and it all seems to point to live ocean rock. Paul uses mud and stuff from the ocean. This being said alot of people keep fish and qt and dry rock that do pretty well. I would start a new thread asking for some insight on your procedure.
Why can't the fish come to us with immunity? I
The other died after eating a piece of dirt that fell in from my white worms.
I don't think it can be concluded that the fish ingesting the clump of dirt absolutely did not kill it. The fish was acting, eating and swimming normal. Within about 36 hours of the ingesting, the fish suddenly died. Maybe it was just a coincidence.The dirt from the worms did not kill your fish....
...The picture of your tank doesn't have nearly enough natural looking hiding places especially for the Possum Wrasse which is the type of fish that hardly ever wants to swim out in the open. I currently have 2 of them. They get very colorful when they feel secure.